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04-17-2008, 06:29 PM
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Took a guy at Gun Point today - reinforced my Training
I am a Probation Officer. Today we had a felon with 3 felony warrants go "148" and run on us... actually through a glass window... We went back to the original house and I went into a bedroom to clear the bedroom. I saw a handgun rug, empty on the floor, instantly drew my service gun (glock) and "pied" the corner to the closet... saw feet and the yelling, pointing the gun, followed by slamming said perp to the floor and handcuffing thing got started.
Why I started this thread: This incident brought out all of the times I have done "presentations" with my duty weapon, finger off of the trigger. In all of the chaos that followed the initial sighting of the perp, the finger never accidentily pulled the trigger and upon the search, no firearm was found. Moral of the Story? Train to do presentations, finger off the trigger until ready to fire... Practice makes perfect and when the feces hits the rotating oscilator... practice pays. Grossman says that what you do in training comes out the other end at the moment when you need it... no more, no less.
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad" 
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04-17-2008, 07:09 PM
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Here here! Glad things worked out well for you, too.
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04-17-2008, 08:22 PM
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I guess I should clarify, the Felon snuck back into the house while we were looking for him in the neighborhood....
Secoundus:... Train baby Train! 
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad"
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04-17-2008, 08:38 PM
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So did you find the weapon? Was the Felon trying to hide it so he didn't also get the felon with gun charge? Just a thought. Good job, glad you're safe.
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Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Lazarus Long (Robert A . Heinlein) 
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04-17-2008, 08:39 PM
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I could have been very bad...I can see it now... Probation officer shoots unarmed man 16 times... why... he ran outa ammo and the guy fell over when he reloaded... oh and there was no gun there... he was just stupid and didn't want to show his hands... yes he was wanted on gun charges and there was a gun rug on the floor but the officer never saw a gun now did he... that would be the headlines in the paper... Probation officer shoots unarmed man... I am really glad it didn't work out that way... Keep da finger offa da trigger until uz guyz is ready to fire see....intend to fire...whatever
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad"
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04-17-2008, 08:40 PM
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad"
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04-17-2008, 09:00 PM
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Perhaps he uses pistol rugs to store his silverware collection.
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04-17-2008, 09:12 PM
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad"
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04-17-2008, 09:26 PM
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Maybe it's a typo but...why were you clearing a room with your firearm holstered?
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04-17-2008, 10:00 PM
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The house had already been "cleared" by 6 different officers... they were all outside while the knucklehead snuck back in... I asked the case agent if he had searched for guns or dope and he thought it might be a good idea to go back into the house with me..... I tend to find stuff... old dog... seen the tricks.... He tells me "we already searched that room"..... and he was really embarrassed when I started with the "show me your hands" stuff to homeboy in the closet... we have officers with varying levels of training... I don't trust when other people tell me they have cleared something and I train people to never trust me... always check twice! Nobody expected "stupid" to sneak back into the house... there were a half dozen police cars 4 probation cars parked accross the streat...go figure... Point again... I was genuinely suprised but prepared... finger off the trigger...that's the point... when people get scared or startled we see them pull the trigger ( in simmunition training especially)... Train... do presentations with the finger off of the trigger... preaching to the choire I am sure but preachin' I am... 
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad"
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04-17-2008, 11:06 PM
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One of the instructors I have trained with says there is no such thing as 'rising to the occasion' during a high stress situation. You either acquire the skill through training or you won't be able to pull it off when you need it the most.
Thanks for sharing your experience and glad things turned out the way they did.
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04-18-2008, 12:37 AM
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All I can say is I'm glad your ok... "Practice makes perfect and when the feces hits the rotating oscilator... practice pays." your so right!
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04-18-2008, 01:08 AM
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How're we gonna shoot golf without guns? "It's 2am, do you know where your firearms are?" - In honor of Dennis Farina When the Boogeyman goes to bed, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective. 
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04-18-2008, 10:02 PM
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Good to hear all turned out well. 
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