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Old 10-21-2009, 11:49 PM
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I know it wouldn't hurt to be physically fit when in a life-threatening scenario, but I have a basic question.

Which is better: To walk for an hour at 2.5 mph on the treadmill, or to run for 20 minutes at 4mph. My time is very limited and I tried the walk for an hour on the treadmill thing, but i'm too impatient and I get bored. I'd much rather sweat it out for 20 minutes and then be done with it.

Any input?
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:42 AM
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Would you rather be punched by a marathon runner or a sprinter?

I'm going for short explosive power vs. endurance.
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:53 AM
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I know it wouldn't hurt to be physically fit when in a life-threatening scenario, but I have a basic question.

Which is better: To walk for an hour at 2.5 mph on the treadmill, or to run for 20 minutes at 4mph. My time is very limited and I tried the walk for an hour on the treadmill thing, but i'm too impatient and I get bored. I'd much rather sweat it out for 20 minutes and then be done with it.

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For the former, in a pinch you'll be able to walk away from the threat at a comfortable 2.5 mph. For the later, 4mph is a brisk walk or a slow jog.
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Slow twitch muscles vs. fast twitch muscles. Depends which ones you want to train. You'll need the fast ones for quick reaction!. If you want cardio training then go for slow and long aerobics.
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Physical training should encompass enough PT so that you can perform throughout the entire encounter. And then some.

A "one-two" training program will not be sufficient if the encounter results in a step "three." Phys training is PHYSICAL and can only be done over a longer period of time. Short burst training is mental because you need to "respond RIGHT NOW!" and training just for just that has limited ability for you to continue to respond, run away, think, etc.

So, your training routing needs to be at least 3 times per week and last 30 minutes MINIMUM with a heartrate over 120. Because this isn't easy, you MUST check with a doc before you begin on this type of program.

For myself, I bicycle. I have a mtn bike that I ride 1X per week up a steep fireroad for about 9 miles one way. This takes 2-3 hrs round trip. I also have a road bike that I ride 2X per week of at least 100 miles per week. This takes about 8 hrs per week. I need to add in some sort of upper body strength training but I cannot lift because of my seriously messed up shoulders. Still working on finding something here.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:33 AM
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I know it wouldn't hurt to be physically fit when in a life-threatening scenario, but I have a basic question.

Which is better: To walk for an hour at 2.5 mph on the treadmill, or to run for 20 minutes at 4mph. My time is very limited and I tried the walk for an hour on the treadmill thing, but i'm too impatient and I get bored. I'd much rather sweat it out for 20 minutes and then be done with it.

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The question really is a matter of getting your heart to its target rate, then keeping it there for a period of time. I think a half hour is considered to be a minimum for good effect, based on the last study that I read.

Your target rate is an individual thing, based mostly on your age and present physical condition. 2 1/2 MPH would have very little effect on me, for ten minutes or an hour. Not that walking isn't better than not walking...

Equally important is continuity. Skipping one day is Ok. Skipping two days between runs, or whatever, costs a lot in overall effectiveness. Skip three days between runs, and you have almost no cumulative effect at all.

Actually covering ground is always better exercise than treadmills unless there is some physical limitation. Boredom is one factor. Wind resistance adds a little to the effort, and that's good. Also, personally, I prefer running on a somewhat irregular surface, like a dirt road -- as long as I don't do a face plant!
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:28 AM
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Thanks Quietpi. You gave me some great tips. I am getting quite bored on the treadmill, so I'll be hitting the pavement soon.
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Why not do the 20 minute run in the morning and then walk on a treadmill in the evening while watching the news?
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Why not do the 20 minute run in the morning and then walk on a treadmill in the evening while watching the news?
Welcome choprzrul!!

Doing the treadmill while watching TV, reading a book, or surfing the net is a good way to combat boredom. IMO it can't compare to being outside and breathing fresh air while getting the heartrate up, though. There are many places to walk outside to get your exercise, you can vary your routine and/or take a short ride to visit different sites and see different things around your area. Whenever I am at the mall I always see the mall walkers taking advantage of the indoor arena they have available while being able to check out all the shoppers. I recomment to brightside that you hit the pavement/hiking trails to keep in shape. You won't regret it.

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PS: How 'bout some better pics of that chopper from choprzrul!
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:23 PM
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I absolutely agree regarding being outdoors & exercising. As it is though, I am currently CEO, CTO, CFO, sales, secretary, and consultant of my 1 man corporation. I leave the house in the dark and come home in the dark. The treadmill allows me to get in some exercise at the same time I am catching up on the news. Granted, the dogs would much prefer my walks being done on the beach, but that just doesn't seem to happen as much as it used to. As for the chopper, I built that by hand over a decade ago before such things became fashionable and done on TV. My back is bad enough now from a service-connected disability such that I don't ride. I might be able to find a better picture, but I doubt that I will roll it out of the trailer for a photo op.
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You're right, choprzrul, that's why there are treadmills. They also work better in the rain...

And re: you being a one-man show -- note that I'm posting this at 0615, and I've been at my desk for an hour now. Yup, being there, doing that, if you get my drift.
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