Health friendly ammo

[espenfolgero]

I have just begun my gun training, and I have a concern; all the indoor-ranges in my area have, in my opinion, insufficient ventilation systems.
Does anyone know which is the most health-friendly training ammunition on the marked?
Is there deviation in the ballistics compared to standard ammo?
By the way; I am using a 9 mm Glock.

[Tom98915]

TMJ or FMJ ammo fits the bill if you want such. And If I am right, the glock uses a polygon barrel which requires jacketed ammo anyway.

[brightside]

I'd purchase a respirator. Online, you can purchase ones that are used for welding, and they can prevent fine lead partices from entering your lungs. The filters are pink (I forgot the model number). They should cost around $25for the respirator with the 2 filters.

If you were fortunate enough to live here in SB county, you could go to a plethora of outdoor ranges.

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by espenfolgero

I have just begun my gun training, and I have a concern; all the indoor-ranges in my area have, in my opinion, insufficient ventilation systems.
Does anyone know which is the most health-friendly training ammunition on the marked?
Is there deviation in the ballistics compared to standard ammo?
By the way; I am using a 9 mm Glock.

If you're concerned with lead content in the blood spiking, look into periodical testing to see whether you're being affected or not. I know that all range personnel get tested periodically.

[sealbeach]

There may be a concern if you are being exposed at a higher level than range staff, but remember that range employees are considered to be exposed for an 8 hour day, 5 days per week. Are you really at the range that much?

Here is a link to an MSDS for lead, note there is not even a LD listed (lethal dose).

Most ranges have very good ventilation systems, just make sure to wash your hands before eating or handling food or smoking.

Also, if you have a lot of cercerns, you should take a shower and wash all contaminated clothing after a range visit--that will clean off gunpowder residue and residual lead.

Seriously, I don't think occasional visits to the range will cause significant lead exposure--be sure to follow these precautions, you should be fine.

[MrClamperSir]

Switching your ammo won't eliminate what the rest of the patrons at an indoor range are shooting with. If you're that concerned I'd look into a mask, as suggested above, or drive out of town.

[paul0660]

High levels of lead in the blood could explain the IQ of a few indoor range personnel I know.

[MrClamperSir]

Originally Posted by paul0660

High levels of lead in the blood could explain the IQ of a few indoor range personnel I know.

Nice!

[Keith92555]

Originally Posted by MrClamperSir

Switching your ammo won't eliminate what the rest of the patrons at an indoor range are shooting with. If you're that concerned I'd look into a mask, as suggested above, or drive out of town.

+1.

If you are the only one using health friendly ammo in a range with 20 shooting positions, I don't think you are changing your lead exposure very much. The welder's mask would be your best bet if you are that concerned about lead. Definitely should wash before eating, drinking, or smoking. Interesting question for your first post on the forum.

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Keith

[Bald Biker]

The best advice I've got on indoor ranges is was from my CCW class.......If you can't feel air movement coming from behind you, go to another range.

[MrClamperSir]

Originally Posted by Bald Biker

The best advice I've got on indoor ranges is was from my CCW class.......If you can't feel air movement coming from behind you, go to another range.

I'm not familiar with ventilation systems in a indoor range. Why is that bad?

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by MrClamperSir

I'm not familiar with ventilation systems in a indoor range. Why is that bad?

If I was to guess it's cause when you shoot you push lead and all the other crap out towards the target. If the air is pushing form behind you it keeps all the crap up front. If the air movement is in the other direction then that means you're breathing all that stuff....

[X-ffdo]

Hair sample test will determine your toxic load.
www.doctorsdata.com look at hair elements or hair toxic elements test.
I had it done for a series of years. It is treatable with DMSA, dimercapto succcinic acid, a chelator. Also leaches mercury.
Wash your hands with cold water, not warm or hot water after exposure cold water keeps the skin pores closed. Have an old pair of shoes just for the pistol range and store somewhere at a location near garage, otherwise you'll track it into your house, the rugs specially if you have small children that are crawling on the floors. Use a respirator, keep the wind at your back.
I dealt with it and no big deal, just takes finding a doctor who knows what he is doing and time. I have been around guns most of my life. Your Antimony load will be high as well, a bi-product of gunpowder.
There are four elements you do not want: Arsenic, Lead. Cadmiun and mercury. You'll get cancer or go nuts!!.....

[Dutchman]

If it's a concern for you, then get your levels checked. I hand-load and cast bullets. I use the precautions described above and tested out at very close to 0. With the hand loading, dealing with the spent primers is actually the most hazardous part as far as the dust from the spent lead styphnate. I would hazard to guess that most of the "lead fumes" are probably from the primers rather than the bullets themselves.

If I worked at an indoor range 40 hrs/week I'd be A LOT more concerned about lead exposure than just shooting there 2-3 times a week for an hour or two.

[swdr]

For indoor ranges, usually different lanes will have different air flows if the fans are weak. Try not to use either end lane; depending on the ducting pattern and weak flow, you can get gyres (the air can circle back toward you from the next lane over) in end lanes. The air is sucked with fans in from the outside and flows out the ducts at the ceiling from behind the lanes and is exhausted down range above the backstop (and is filtered there before the exhaust is flushed to the outside, far away from the intake fans). Look at the fan duct outlets behind you; check the flow with your hand if you want; it should be strong enough to flutter bits of paper toward the lane bench-rest.