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Old 07-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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Aiming Aid attached with VHB Tape
"Aiming Aid" -- sort of like Homeboy sights.
It'd be fun to see the holster for that. Heh.

And still no "Scientific Studies" proving the "experts" "wrong". They must be really hard to find. What's the matter, 5shot? Dog ate 'em? Tee hee.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:00 PM
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Heh kind of like the half homey grip for one handed shooting.

You measure the axis of the grip relative to target going clockwise in "Thugs".

So holding the weapon normally would be a 1 (or 12 if you prefer clocks) Thug grip. Shooting upside down would be a 6 Thug grip. Firing with your pinky?

The imagination runs wild after that and my wrists start getting sympathy pains.

Though, truthfully, holding the weapon at a slight angle when shooting one handed has helped tremendously with my one handed shooting followup shots. Especially firing lefty.

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:51 AM
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Check the history for the use of what I call P&S over the years and by the Chinese military when firing the C96.

And how come no pics or videos of Sight Shooting being used in CQB since it's been taught for 100 plus years.

Would be funny, except teaching something for use in situations where their is the greatest likelyhood of being shot and/or killed, and for which their is no proof of it actually having being used in such situations, is IMHO immoral and/or criminal.

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As to you little funsters, make fun all you want. I'm not responding to youse. I am responding for those who may be interested in learning how best to protect themselves and their charges.

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As to using the Sights which the US army says you always should unless your gun may be taken away from you, or its dark and/or you can't use them:

With P&S you automatically get both a correct Flash Sight Picture and a correct Sight Picture.

That is because the front and rear gun sights are normally in proper alignment left and right, and also in parallel with the barrel. So when the index finger placed along the side of a gun, it also will be in parallel with them, and for as long as the index fingers stays along the side of the gun.

Then when the index finger is pointed at COM, you will get both a correct Flash Sight Picture and correct Sight Picture automatically.

A correct Sight Picture consists of correct Sight Alignment with the front sight placed center mass of the target.

There will be no need to take the time to find and focus on the sights, and then check and adjust as needed for a correct Flash Sight Picture or a correct Sight Picture, and then shoot. You already will have them.

As to being able to point accurately at stuff, the US Army says: "When a soldier points, he instinctively points at the feature on the object on which his eyes are focused. An impulse from the brain causes the arm and hand to stop when the finger reaches the proper position."

"When the eyes are shifted to a new object or feature, the finger, hand, and arm also shift to this point. It is this inherent trait that can be used by the soldier to engage targets rapidly and accurately."

As distance increases or if their is need for a precise shot, visual confirmation may be able to be employed given the lighting and other conditions of the situation.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:43 AM
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Check the history for the use of what I call P&S over the years and by the Chinese military when firing the C96.
Darn, those "scientific studies" that you earlier swore by must be difficult to find. How many days has it been, and you still can't find them? Gee, and you really wanted us to look for them too?

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And how come no pics or videos of Sight Shooting being used in CQB since it's been taught for 100 plus years.
And still trying to hide behind your sleaze, I see. Didn't you get the word? Your extraordinary claims need extraordinary backup -- but instead, you use the technique of a scam artist and challenge the opposition to prove you wrong. Nice move, but a little too predictable at this point.

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is IMHO immoral and/or criminal.
You appear to have neither a humble opinion nor any morals to speak of. Otherwise, and you'd produce what you claimed to exist.

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I am responding for those who may be interested in learning how best to protect themselves and their charges.
No, not really. At this point it's clear that you're just interested in promoting your pet theory with any sleazy tactic you can.

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With P&S you automatically get both a correct Flash Sight Picture and a correct Sight Picture.
Sure it does, or you get your money back -- a 100% guarantee, except for shipping and handling, and burial as well.

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Then when the index finger is pointed at COM, you will get both a correct Flash Sight Picture and correct Sight Picture automatically.
Of course, we're only making fun of you because you can't seem to produce those "scientific studies" which you claimed proved the "experts" "wrong". Tee hee.

You're quite a piece of work. But not in a good sense.
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"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Lama
"Gun bans don't disarm criminals, gun bans attract them." Walter Mondale, VP
"Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing." Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." Lenin, Creator of the USSR
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms." Hitler
"To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason, Father of the Bill of Rights
"I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor." Gandhi
The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government." Hubert H Humphrey, VP
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life." John F Kennedy
"Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state." Heinrich Himmler, Head of Nazi SS
"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy." George Orwell
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in their government." Jefferson
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." Luke 22:36
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