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Old 07-07-2009, 10:25 PM
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Default Recently got G30SF and had first feed jam

I bought my first pistol about 2 weeks ago and had my first opportunity to shoot it today. While going through the first 90 rounds I experienced a feed jam and after ejecting the bullet I loaded it into the chamber and released my slide stop. I noticed after the slide closed it failed to close completely. I dont know if I should contribute this to not lubricating the pistol after buying it or if I should consider carrying 9 rounds in the mag as opposed to 10. Any suggestions or experience with similar malfunctions?
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:34 PM
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Contrary to what Glockers say about Glocks being good to go right out of the box, I have experienced the same failure with a G21SF. The first shot out of the gun was unusual. The slide seem to move in slow motion. A few rounds later, the slide did not return to battery. It was about a quarter inch open. I had to push the back of the slide to make it work. If I do the recoil spring test, it would fail. This is where you hold an empty gun with the muzzle up. Pull the trigger and hold it to the rear. Cycle the slide but ride it till about a quarter inch before full close. Then let it go. The slide should close by it self. Mine did not. After several hundred rounds through the gun, it is behaving properly. My advice is shoot it and break it in.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:59 PM
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If you check Glock Talk, There is a recent thing going on with the Glock 30 SF model doing what you describe. There are conjectures about what the problem is with that model. Nothing else going on with other models, the regular 30 has no problem. The 30 SF is a recent design, it might have bugs.
Some say the back rails are lower than the front rails, causing the slide to contact the trigger bar because the slide is lower and closer to the receiver towards the back portion of the pistol, with the barrel end of the pistol having a bigger gap between slide and receiver, others think that the problem is the trigger bar design itself, as it may show gouging by the slide. Look at the lower portion, the base of the trigger bar shark for evidence of wear against the slide. Looks like a groove, from pictures I have seen on the web.
Shoot it some more. Check the areas I mentioned and call Glock. Tell them what the beef is, I am sure they know by now, as you are not the only one having this problem with the 30 SF.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:21 AM
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I have the G30, and my dad has the 30SF. I still have yet to take them apart and really compare them closely side by side to see what is different about them. So far they appear to be the exact same gun to me.

But yeah, neither my 30, nor my dads 30SF has ever experienced that problem. My Kimber Ultra Carry II sure has though! So many times that I have gotten nervous about even carrying it for a reliable self defense gun. Pretty sure I fixed it now with a little sanding of the contact surfaces in the slide because it has not failed to close all the way for a while now. But it will take a lot more trouble free shooting for me to really trust it.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:03 AM
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I like a couple of hundred rounds trouble free before I trust carrying polymer guns... having said that, most other guns have a minimum 500 rds trouble free before it is trusted.... I'd shoot it some more... if the problem gets worse call glock...
before you do that however, what kind of ammo are you shooting... jacketed bullets I presume and not reloads?
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:08 AM
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Buy a Kimber Ultra CDP II. Problem solved!
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Buy a Kimber Ultra CDP II. Problem solved!
Join a 12 step group... Geez...kimberaholics....
Ok... My name is cat and I own a kimber UC II and I used to own a kimber 38 super and I want to........
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Join a 12 step group... Geez...kimberaholics....
Ok... My name is cat and I own a kimber UC II and I used to own a kimber 38 super and I want to........
I already went through that with plastic Austrian gun disease. Can only take one 12 step program in a life time! Sorry!
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I already went through that with plastic Austrian gun disease. Can only take one 12 step program in a life time! Sorry!
Ok...
truth and honesty...
I carry a steel 1911 5in gun 99% of the time off duty... and about 50% of the time a cute little alloy and steel SW 342 in an ankle holster with it.. .guns get lonely if carried alone... having to leave the comfort of the safe with all of their buddies and going out into the hot Bako air... it's always nice if they get to bring a friend along......but when I ain't carryin' a "real gun"... i sometimes carry a Glock 20 off duty... so I still have plasticitis... something about that soft shootin' hi power testosterone fueled 10mm fantastic plastic....and our "range guns" that are self cycling are all glocks...even the .22lr...advantage arms and glock...not lookin' for the cure... lookin' to facilitate my disease...
Glock 22 with surefire remote switch flamethrower in Safariland holster on duty..

have re-acquired...or it flared up or something ... the BRD...thinking of a pistol caliber AR now...
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I have the G30, and my dad has the 30SF. I still have yet to take them apart and really compare them closely side by side to see what is different about them. So far they appear to be the exact same gun to me.

But yeah, neither my 30, nor my dads 30SF has ever experienced that problem. My Kimber Ultra Carry II sure has though! So many times that I have gotten nervous about even carrying it for a reliable self defense gun. Pretty sure I fixed it now with a little sanding of the contact surfaces in the slide because it has not failed to close all the way for a while now. But it will take a lot more trouble free shooting for me to really trust it.
I no longer carry my Kimber because it's a POS, unreliable 1000 dollar paper weight.

My cheap glocks have never failed me since the day they were first shot.

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I wish this were true!
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I no longer carry my Kimber because it's a POS, unreliable 1000 dollar paper weight.

My cheap glocks have never failed me since the day they were first shot.



I wish this were true!
Aww GEEZ!
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:55 AM
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Absolutely - since you will not be able to afford to buy ammo.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:07 AM
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Aww GEEZ!
Mad Geek, I'll sell it to you? It's in mint condition.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:13 AM
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My cheap glocks have never failed me since the day they were first shot.



I wish this were true!
Must be the Indian not the arrow.

BTW El Gato I have plastic handguns too. S&W M&Ps I prefer them over Glocks as they fit my hand better and point better for me (1911 grip angle).
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:14 AM
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I have a Glock 30SF and I have not had any problems with it at all, so far it has worked every time.
I have read the comments about this model having problems but have not looked into it myself, in doing so, these are my observations. The back metallic inserts, where the slide rails ride, are positioned closer to the rest of the frame compared to the front rails, so that the slide look like it is closer to the frame in the back portion of the firearm. If you look at the gap between the slide/frame in the front area vs. the back area, the gap is less in the back area. The metallic inserts, where the slide groove rides, have a closer tolerance in back. The slide is riding at an angle and not parallel to the frame. Could be a QC issue.
It would be good to able to compare a regular model 30 vs. a 30SF. Or for that matter, a 30SF vs. any other Glock model. Looking at a G-23, and G-27 slides, the way they are located, I would say that they look pretty much parallel to the frame, the gap between slide/frame look fairly uniform to me.
As far as the Kimber Ultra CDP II, remember that this baby requires that you replace the recoil spring every 1,500 rounds. If you do not, your gun may fail to go to battery.
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