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Old 07-08-2009, 12:24 PM
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Must be the Indian not the arrow.

BTW El Gato I have plastic handguns too. S&W M&Ps I prefer them over Glocks as they fit my hand better and point better for me (1911 grip angle).
I'll gladly let you shoot it Bono, will see just how you do, since you think it's the indian and not the arrow!

Many many many people on this site are kimper converts and many of those have had problems with them on this very site, including many senior members, I don't have the time or desire to search through old posts, but I will say this, if you pay 1000 bucks for a gun, it better work flawlessly from the first shot, and it shouldn't require having to send it back to the manufactures multiple times or even 1 time to fix shoddy workmanship.

Having poorly polised parts that hang up isn't something I expect from a manufactures that claims to pride itself on craftsmenship. I personally find the craftsmanship of Kimber substandard and I would never buy another one.


I shoot bricks through my glocks and they still don't jam!

I love the feel of the Kimber, but I just can't rely on it to save my life.
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Having poorly polised parts that hang up isn't something I expect from a manufactures that claims to pride itself on craftsmenship. I personally find the craftsmanship of Kimber substandard and I would never buy another one.


I shoot bricks through my glocks and they still don't jam!

I love the feel of the Kimber, but I just can't rely on it to save my life.
I'm in the same boat. All my kimbers were replaced by H&K's that have yet to experience a problem. Both of my kimbers experienced problems and I just could not be comfortable letting my life hang on the "well what if it's a bad kimber day". Some people, theirs work great - I envy them. The CDP II is a gorgeous gun and and when mine worked it was dreamy to shoot.

My p2000sk might not look very attractive but I've got twice as many rounds through it as both of my kimbers had and have yet to experience ANY problem. The thing just works. Yeah it's not a .45 it's a .40 but I'll take 9 guaranteed shots over an unknown number of shots that make bigger holes any day.

If I'm fabulously wealthy some day I will definitely have kimber show pieces. They just oooze gun sexy.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:12 PM
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I do not know quite how to put this. I am going to try.
I have noticed a slow down in the quantity of traffic through this place lately.
I can only judge that by the amount of posts that I see here.
Seems to me that my purpose in being here is to provide help to those who post here asking for directions on any given problem. Not that I consider myself an authority.
Instead what I notice is that if you do not favor shooting a particular brand of firearm, some of the old timers here will jump on people who post about the other brands of firearms. This may be done in good disposition, in a joking way. we can do that among ourselves since we know each other and are actually very close, it has happened over time.
Those who are new to this board are receiving a message in a very different way. The message is not being lost by most people at large, by those who "lurk" and are deterred from joining and contributing. So is the effect felt. That may be why the slow down in perceived traffic.
they will simply go elsewhere where they perceive they are welcome to comment freely in any direction they wish.
Then again, this is your board.
I will shoot whatever firearm serves me. It might differ at different times.
This is not pointed at anyone in particular, it has been a general trend now for a while that has overstayed its welcome, and this is an overall observation. Someone has to bring this to the forefront, I am a nobody here but I am getting tired! Do not mean to step on anyones toes.
I want this board to continue growing!
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:23 PM
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Mad Geek, I'll sell it to you? It's in mint condition.
I have an Ultra Raptor II that I really like. It's MUCH better than a doorstop and I've never had a feed or extraction issue, but then I don't talk bad about it on this or any other forum.

Thanks for the offer though.
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So I cleaned and lubricated my Glock 30SF and when I reassembled it and dry fired it the slide slid right off the frame. now if I want to break down my gun all I have to do is pull the trigger. As I said before this gun was purched two weeks ago and has only had 90 rounds put through it. I shot Speer Lawman's through it (not reloads). When I was firing it I had trouble with the slide closing when I tried to chamber a round after a fed jam. I'm going nuts because I've only heard great things about Glock and I'm already having problems with it, I'm not sure if it's the model or if something may have been damaged internally from the 90 rounds I put through it. I haven't done more than field strip it and clean it, so hopefully when I call glock tomorrow they'll be able to tell me who I can take it to to get it taken care of.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:56 PM
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I do not know quite how to put this. I am going to try.
I have noticed a slow down in the quantity of traffic through this place lately.
I can only judge that by the amount of posts that I see here.
Seems to me that my purpose in being here is to provide help to those who post here asking for directions on any given problem. Not that I consider myself an authority.
Instead what I notice is that if you do not favor shooting a particular brand of firearm, some of the old timers here will jump on people who post about the other brands of firearms. This may be done in good disposition, in a joking way. we can do that among ourselves since we know each other and are actually very close, it has happened over time.
Those who are new to this board are receiving a message in a very different way. The message is not being lost by most people at large, by those who "lurk" and are deterred from joining and contributing. So is the effect felt. That may be why the slow down in perceived traffic.
they will simply go elsewhere where they perceive they are welcome to comment freely in any direction they wish.
Then again, this is your board.
I will shoot whatever firearm serves me. It might differ at different times.
This is not pointed at anyone in particular, it has been a general trend now for a while that has overstayed its welcome, and this is an overall observation. Someone has to bring this to the forefront, I am a nobody here but I am getting tired! Do not mean to step on anyones toes.
I want this board to continue growing!
Far better stated than I could. Needless to say, I agree with you. WE need to stay on focus on the CCW objective and avoid distractions. There is too much valuable information to be gained from this forum.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:27 PM
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I do not know quite how to put this. I am going to try.
I have noticed a slow down in the quantity of traffic through this place lately.
I can only judge that by the amount of posts that I see here.
Seems to me that my purpose in being here is to provide help to those who post here asking for directions on any given problem. Not that I consider myself an authority.
Instead what I notice is that if you do not favor shooting a particular brand of firearm, some of the old timers here will jump on people who post about the other brands of firearms. This may be done in good disposition, in a joking way. we can do that among ourselves since we know each other and are actually very close, it has happened over time.
Those who are new to this board are receiving a message in a very different way. The message is not being lost by most people at large, by those who "lurk" and are deterred from joining and contributing. So is the effect felt. That may be why the slow down in perceived traffic.
they will simply go elsewhere where they perceive they are welcome to comment freely in any direction they wish.
Then again, this is your board.
I will shoot whatever firearm serves me. It might differ at different times.
This is not pointed at anyone in particular, it has been a general trend now for a while that has overstayed its welcome, and this is an overall observation. Someone has to bring this to the forefront, I am a nobody here but I am getting tired! Do not mean to step on anyones toes.
I want this board to continue growing!

Agreed, I am guilty of this as many other here are as well. I will make it a point to be more aware of this.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:37 PM
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So I cleaned and lubricated my Glock 30SF and when I reassembled it and dry fired it the slide slid right off the frame. now if I want to break down my gun all I have to do is pull the trigger. As I said before this gun was purched two weeks ago and has only had 90 rounds put through it. I shot Speer Lawman's through it (not reloads). When I was firing it I had trouble with the slide closing when I tried to chamber a round after a fed jam. I'm going nuts because I've only heard great things about Glock and I'm already having problems with it, I'm not sure if it's the model or if something may have been damaged internally from the 90 rounds I put through it. I haven't done more than field strip it and clean it, so hopefully when I call glock tomorrow they'll be able to tell me who I can take it to to get it taken care of.


I would call Glock and explain your issues, they are very helpful.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:39 PM
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Must be the Indian not the arrow.

BTW El Gato I have plastic handguns too. S&W M&Ps I prefer them over Glocks as they fit my hand better and point better for me (1911 grip angle).
SWMBO just "won" a SW mp 40 at the Friends of the NRA dinner... or I won it and she took it... I am suitably impressed except it does have more parts than the glock and the biggest problem as far as I'm concerned is the takedown method... you don't have to pull the trigger to disassemble the gun...that's a safety issue as far as I'm concerned... how else do you know if it is empty if you don't pull the trigger....:
Just kiddin' .... but I am impressed...
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:44 PM
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SWMBO just "won" a SW mp 40 at the Friends of the NRA dinner... or I won it and she took it... I am suitably impressed except it does have more parts than the glock and the biggest problem as far as I'm concerned is the takedown method... you don't have to pull the trigger to disassemble the gun...that's a safety issue as far as I'm concerned... how else do you know if it is empty if you don't pull the trigger....:
Just kiddin' .... but I am impressed...
Good point!

BTW nice job on the winning!!!
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Just to hijack the thread some more......

Rock Island = McDonalds big mac... beef and always the same...

Kimber = Carl's 6$ burger... good beef, nice presentation... lots of flavor

My Volkman = Kobe fillet...

Glock = Taco and enchilada with rice and beans... you get the beef and lots of other stuff with it and always at a good price....and if for some reason it ain't right... well it's easy to fix with a little more cheese and some Mole or whatever...

Or that's my theory anyway....
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So I cleaned and lubricated my Glock 30SF and when I reassembled it and dry fired it the slide slid right off the frame. now if I want to break down my gun all I have to do is pull the trigger. As I said before this gun was purched two weeks ago and has only had 90 rounds put through it. I shot Speer Lawman's through it (not reloads). When I was firing it I had trouble with the slide closing when I tried to chamber a round after a fed jam. I'm going nuts because I've only heard great things about Glock and I'm already having problems with it, I'm not sure if it's the model or if something may have been damaged internally from the 90 rounds I put through it. I haven't done more than field strip it and clean it, so hopefully when I call glock tomorrow they'll be able to tell me who I can take it to to get it taken care of.
When you disassembled your glock, you obviously had to pull down the slide stop while slightly pulling back on the slide, then allowing it to go forward thus removing the slide.
Did you remove the slide stop? Did you check you slide stop spring, i.e. when you pull down the slide stop as if disassembling, when you release it, it should snap back up into place.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:42 PM
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When you disassembled your glock, you obviously had to pull down the slide stop while slightly pulling back on the slide, then allowing it to go forward thus removing the slide.
Did you remove the slide stop? Did you check you slide stop spring, i.e. when you pull down the slide stop as if disassembling, when you release it, it should snap back up into place.
It has been a while since I owned a Glock but I don't remember pulling down the slide stop to release the slide for a field strip.
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It has been a while since I owned a Glock but I don't remember pulling down the slide stop to release the slide for a field strip.
my bad... I meant Slide Lock and Slide Lock spring..
I did not mean to imply slide stop lever
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:19 AM
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my bad... I meant Slide Lock and Slide Lock spring..
I did not mean to imply slide stop lever
Yeah that is the two levers you have to push down on each side of the slide?

Way cool. Does sound like some kind of spring problem.

Good luck with it!!!!
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