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Old 10-08-2009, 12:58 AM
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What's the law on CCW holders for carrying there firearms, Around friends or family that are on any type of probation the law says they can't have possession or be around any weapons (firearms). Would like some tips thanks

Would not want some rookie to give some of my friends a hard time that hold ccw.



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You must keep it under your "Damion and Control" at ALL times. They will be fine. They should not know you even have it on you.
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By the way, Welcome! Why did you pick 10-33?
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By the way, Welcome! Why did you pick 10-33?
didn't know what to use so i used my name and a radio call sign& to see what people say. 10-33 Emergency radio traffic


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didn't know what to use so i used my name and a radio call sign& to see what people say. 10-33 Emergency radio traffic


thanks for the info

In my industry it means shots fired, officers needs help.

"Officer needs help / the life of the officer is in danger"
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welcome aboard,

if CCW,

maybe a 1032 (person with gun) would be better?
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Welcome, Anthony.

Interesting with the 10-33. In every agency I've worked in or with, it has meant "Emergency traffic." "11-99" means "officer needs help," whether or not shots are fired, but it would bring pretty much everything from your department, and at least something from any other department within, oh, an hour of the incident. 11-99 should not be confused with 10-11, which is just a request for backup units.

Checking my old reference, 10-32 means "remain in service," as when a unit would have gone 10-10 or 10-7, but I don't think I've ever heard it used.

And here's a great illustration of the reason I advocate "clear text," or whatever name it's known by in your neck of the woods.
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maybe a 1032 (person with gun) would be better?
The problem with ten-codes is that the meaning changes from one department to another.
Welcome to the site anthony1033. We may ramble around some times, but we do get you the answer you need to hear, maybe just not the one you want to hear.
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Welcome anthony1033.

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Welcome anthony1033.

Like CCWInstructor stated, no one should know you are carrying and it should always be under you dominion and control. For instance, you may carry concealed by placing it in a holster or similar hidden device attached to your seat while you drive, as long as it is out of site. But if that place is between you and the passenger and he has just as much access to it as you do... You must have sole access to the weapon and it must remain concealed.

The OP here is puzzling to me, though. Are you asking on behalf of your friends who have CCW permits? And why, oh why, would you/they be hanging with friends who are on probation if you have a CCW? That in and of itself sounds like poor judgement unless you are talking strictly about family. If you pissed of a cop or he is having a bad day, you can be sure that he will be talking to your issuing authority about your judgement and choice of friends. Just trying to understand the situation here and the underlying motivation behind the OP.

Anyways, welcome again.

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The problem with ten-codes is that the meaning changes from one department to another.
Exactly. The results can be humorous, or not so humorous. Maybe I'll head over to Sam's, and claim a table for a friendly round.
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as I read the OP, Anthony is the restricted person and is worrying if he would get his CCW friends in trouble.

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Would not want some rookie to give some of my friends a hard time that hold ccw.
His friends, not him.
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welcome...
interestesting... we don't use 10-33... for anything that I can remember... have to look it up when I pick my car up this morning....1032 is a warrant usually used as 1032mary or 1032frank for misd. or felony....

we use code 999 for officer needs emergency blow out the stops and get there fast cause bad things are happening

and code 998 for officer shooting something/one
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forgot to answer the question in my previous post....

as long as you maintain care, custody and control (dominion and control) of the firearm... and you should notify contacting officers that you are carrying... then you are golden...

As a Probation officer, we have many probationers who are married to people who can legally own guns... they simply have to lock them up so that the probationer has no control/access to the firearm when the owner is away from the gun... some less informed officers will try to tell the lawful owner that they can't have the gun in the house but that isn't exactly constitutional...
we do mandate that the owner keep it locked up in a safe, cabinet or in one case the guy put in an eyebolt into the stud and chained the gun up and there were no keys left in the house (we looked) while he was away from the house...one of my fellow officers married one of my former probationers (she was a very bright light what got dimmed using drugs - got clean - and I had her felonies reduced to a misdemeanor and dismissed) - but even though her record shows a felony reduced to a misd. conviction now.. they are careful to keep his guns locked up in case there is any reason for the cops to come to the house...and if she needs to use the gun in an emergency, that would be legal anyway...

I have seized guns that were not secured when the owner was away.. and we have arrested people under the same circumstances... (I have a previous post around here some where when I was pissed for having been put into the position of having to arrest a guy - good news was grandpa got his gun back)...anyway... as long as it is secured or on your person (and a 12035 definition might be sufficient of on your person) you should not have any problems...
a word of caution: if your friend is a felon, he/she can't have access to ammunition either.. it is a felony for the felon to possess ammo... so that also has to be locked up... this is especially true for roomates...'cause if the felon has access to it...he/she owns it...
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