AB 962 there at it again

[wac220]

I am sure most everyone on this site is aware of this annually reaccuring legislation. I just received this notification from NRA. I thought I would pass it along.

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Update on Pending Assault on Ammunition Sales in California

Please Continue to Contact the Members of the Assembly Committee on Public Safety!

Assembly Bill 962, sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), has been pulled from the Assembly Committee on Public Safety. The bill still could be heard next week, however.

AB962 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.

Please continue to contact the members of the Assembly Committee on Public Safety and respectfully urge them to oppose AB962. Contact information can be found below.

Assembly Member Jose Solorio (D-69) - Chair
(916) 319-2069
Assemblymember.solorio@assembly.ca.gov

Assembly Member Curt Hagman (R-60) - Vice Chair
(916) 319-2060
Assemblymember.Hagman@assembly.ca.gov

Assembly Member Warren T. Furutani (D-55)
(916) 319-2055
Assemblymember.Furutani@assembly.ca.gov

Assembly Member Danny D. Gilmore (R-30)
(916) 319-2030
Assemblymember.Gilmore@assembly.ca.gov

Assembly Member Jerry Hill (D-19)
(916) 319-2019
Assemblymember.Hill@assembly.ca.gov

Assembly Member Fiona Ma (D-12)
(916) 319-2012
Assemblymember.Ma@assembly.ca.gov

Assembly Member Nancy Skinner (D-14)
(916) 319-2014
Assemblymember.Skinner@assembly.ca.gov
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This was my response, I can only hope it might help.

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Dear Assembly Members,

I am writing this note to urge you to block passage of AB 962. I am an avid target shooter, and this bill would adversely affect my hobby. I also believe in and practice self protection/reliance. I currently buy ammo in bulk to save on the cost and make practice affordable. I am also teaching a couple of younger relatives to shoot.

I feel that any person who legally owns a firearm should practice regularly so as to attain or maintain a high level of proficiency. If sufficient practice is not completed, the firearm could become dangerous because of inaccuracy in operation.

Thank you for your time.

[sealbeach]

Same bill, same author IIRC.

[Kappy]

So this AB962 actually passed? WTF? Now... I THOUGHT it precluded me from buying 50 rounds per month, which it doesn't, but I still think it's crap. My club allows us to purchase CMP ammo at the club's price. Now we won't be able to do that. Plus, since it's almost impossible to find ammo locally, and you won't be able to purchase online in all likelihood, I'll probably get bored of shooting a round a week.

Jerks.

[Kappy]

Wait... I take it back. Didn't pass.

According to my email from the NRA:

Assembly Bill 962 was passed and now heads to the Assembly Committee on Appropriations where it awaits a hearing. Sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB962 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.

Why did they say it had passed?

[SierraNevadaCCW]

The bill is unconstitutional and so are the actions of those few democrats who keep trying to ban guns, ammo and common sense.

[benh]

Once again, the lawmakers are giving criminals an advantage over law abiding citizens like myself

[Kappy]

Well, obviously the law makes no sense. Criminals won't care about laws concerning handing off ammo to anyone else.

I'd be thinking this has something to do with the rash of public shootings lately, but it has been under consideration for far longer than that.

My question is... they want me to be safe with my guns... so they damage my ability to practice and stay accurate.

Nice job

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by Kappy

Well, obviously the law makes no sense. Criminals won't care about laws concerning handing off ammo to anyone else.

I'd be thinking this has something to do with the rash of public shootings lately, but it has been under consideration for far longer than that.

My question is... they want me to be safe with my guns... so they damage my ability to practice and stay accurate.

Nice job

There you go dragging logic into this discussion.

[KimberDude]

Originally Posted by Kappy

Wait... I take it back. Didn't pass.

According to my email from the NRA:


Why did they say it had passed?

They probably meant that it passed the safety committee.

[spc]

Originally Posted by SierraNevadaCCW

The bill is unconstitutional and so are the actions of those few democrats who keep trying to ban guns, ammo and common sense.

Bingo. Isn't this something akin to Treason? Don't they Swear an Oath to uphold the Constitution upon taking office?

spc

[Tom98915]

What NEEDS to happen is to have this DeLeon clown voted out of office that keeps bringing it back!!!

But, I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir...

[xymotique]

Amen to that. It was pretty hard to get some ammo at the last gun show I went to in Vallejo last weekend =/

[PHM]

You know something, this POS DeLeon is really starting to piss me off. We have a State on the brink of bankruptcy and this Adam Henry is only interested in this stupid ammo bill. He figures if he can keep putting it through enough times it will pass.

Don't you think there are many more important issues on the table right now Mr. DeLeon?

We need to bombard his office with calls and emails!

[protectmine]

ALL please send a hardcopy letter (not email) to your State Senator today. This is through the House and going to the Senate to vote on!!! here is the letter I sent in case you want to use it (or parts of it)

FIND THEM AT Senators


After being placed in the suspense file, and everyone thinking it was dead, Assembly Bill 962 is moving through the state legislature again. It passed the state assembly Wednesday and now moves to the state senate. How it got this far is a mystery.
In case you've forgotten, Los Angeles assemblyman Kevin DeLeon's bill would:
1) Stop the sale of more than 50 rounds of handgun ammunition per month to individuals.
Since "handgun" ammunition is not defined anywhere in the bill, it effectively means "all" ammunition, since you can buy handguns in just about any metallic cartridge today. It would also include rimfire cartridges, which are routinely sold in 100-round packs, and are used in many handguns.
How can state government tell me I can only buy and shoot 50 rounds of ammunition per month to be competent with my handgun (or any gun)? The part of the law would effectively ban competitive shooting by civilians, if the law was followed to the letter. It would make those who live in dangerous neighborhoods less safe because gun owners would be less practiced, less trained.
How limiting how much ammunition we buy is supposed to do anything to help prevent crimes or help solve crimes is a complete mystery to anyone who has seriously examined this legislation.
2) It would license and tax anyone selling handgun ammunition commercially and force these stores to get background checks on anyone selling that ammunition.
This would make it more expensive to operate a firearms business in California, already one of the most expensive and highly-regulated businesses in the state. How does this help prevent or solve crimes? It doesn't, of course.
3) It would require ammunition sellers to get a thumbprint from anyone buying handgun ammunition, and mandate store owners keep these records for five years.
The bill would force store owners to keep track of their customers so they know if John Doe has bought or tried to buy more than 50 rounds in any given month. (There are no provisions, however, for anyone to know if John Doe bought 50 rounds from a business across town earlier yesterday.) First, imagine the paperwork nightmare this creates for these businesses. Second, it has been proven that even if law enforcement knows someone purchased a box of ammunition does nothing to help solve a crime. Zip. This is just another harassment of gun owners and legal gun sellers. Plus there's the law enforcement oversight, adding more bureaucratic costs to a state that is going bankrupt, and wasting law enforcement's time and money with an effort that won't help them. This is a really bright thing. Don't you think?
4) It would ban all ammunition sales that don't take place face-to-face, effectively banning all mail-order sales.
If this was the only provision of the bill, it might be supported by local gun retailers because it would mean they wouldn't have to compete with mail order businesses that provide a lot of us with ammunition cheaper and offer more selection than the local gun shops. This is restraint of trade, but worse, it would effectively put out of business several local business who custom load ammunition for hunters. Custom Cartridge in Santa Barbara is one of the few companies that will load non-lead bullets into just about any hunting round to make it legal for use in California's condor hunting zone. They'd be forced out of business by this bill.
The bill was supposedly amended recently, but the only real change I could find in the legislation was the name. This horribly prejudical legislation is now called: PROTECTION Act of 2009: Providing Regulation and Oversight To End Community Terrorism In Our Neighborhoods. Isn't that clever? Never mind that it has nothing to do with making our neighborhoods safer.
It has everything to do with a bias against legal gun ownership and those who legally sell guns and ammunition. This is legislated discrimination. It is about a legislator who doesn't have the courage to introduce legislation to ban handguns. That's what he wants, but he realizes that even in his liberal Los Angeles district that stand would get him kicked out of office in the next election. This is his way to get at gun owners and sellers by making their lives more difficult and expensive.
I respectfully hope you will support your constituent base and vote against this bill while encouraging your colleague to the same. This is an important issue to the voting public and will be remembered during election seasons to come.

[BonoVox]

Unreal!

So bets on Arnold veto?

This must be their version of payback for their stupid ballot initiatives getting thrown back in their face!!!