AB 962 there at it again

[G36 Steve]

Originally Posted by SierraNevadaCCW

The bill is unconstitutional and so are the actions of those few democrats who keep trying to ban guns, ammo and common sense.

Seems to me they were successful at banning common sense!

[OCResident]

NRA-ILA sent out an email blast to members today.

My email to DeLeon, Leno, CCing DeLeon's staff members since he so nicely puts their email addresses on his website, and heck KFI's John & Ken too since they have their Head On A Stick campaign going on:

Just as pointed out in the 1992 presidential campaign, "it's the economy, stupid" should be words you take to heart during the current crisis our state budget and economy is in.

I find it absolutely deplorable that you're instead spending your time introducing and pushing bills such as AB962 (making it a crime to privately transfer 50 rounds of ammunition) and SB585 (preventing gun shows at Cow Palace). These bills are not only a waste of time and will have no measurable impact on public safety, but they will further reduce sales tax revenues. It's time to stop pushing business out of this state, even when you don't particularly like the industry.

It's time to stop making new feel-good laws and start focusing on how this state is going to survive economically.

OCResident

[Tom98915]

Originally Posted by G30 Steve

Seems to me they were successful at banning common sense!

Now THAT makes the most sense on how our state gov't functions!

[akulahawk]

I sent an email to my State Assemblywoman who valiantly, but in vain, cast a "no" vote in the Assembly, and I thanked her for that. I also sent an email out to my State Senator, urging him to once again vote against this type of bill. Unfortunately, I was unable to save the text of the emails... but they did "sound" pretty good when I wrote them.

None were of the "blistering" rabidly pro-gun rights type of thing... just the common sense, this bill is a bad one, and here's why... Hopefully, this dies before it reaches the Governator...

[akulahawk]

Here's the response I got from Senator Dave Cox:

Dear Mr. Akulahawk:



Thank you for contacting my office to express your opposition to gun control legislation.



My stance on additional gun control legislation has been clear. I have consistently opposed efforts to restrict the ability of law-abiding citizens to purchase and legally use firearms.



Several key bills relating to gun control or ownership rights have been introduced or re-introduced during this legislative session.



Assembly Bill 357 (Knight) would revise state law as it relates to obtaining a license to carry a concealed weapon. Current law authorizes the sheriff of a county, "upon proof that the person applying is of good moral character, that good cause exists, and that the person applying satisfies any one of certain conditions?" to issue a license for the person to carry a concealed handgun. AB 357 would delete the good cause requirement, and require the sheriff to issue the license if the other criteria described above are met. As anticipated, AB 357 failed passage in its first hearing in the Assembly Public Safety Committee on April 21 by a vote of 1-5. Although the bill was granted reconsideration, it is unlikely that the bill will receive a sufficient number votes for passage.



Assembly Bill 962 (De Leon), a bill relating to ammunition, is virtually identical to the final language contained in Assembly Bill 2062 (2008) and Assembly Bill 362 (2007) by the same author. AB 962 passed the full Assembly on June 3 by a vote of 42-31 and is now awaiting a committee assignment in the Senate.



AB 962 is a far-reaching measure which would prohibit any person not licensed as a gun dealer to transfer, sell or buy more than 50 pieces of ammunition in a month. The bill also implements extensive reporting and record-keeping requirements for all licensed gun dealers who wish to sell ammunition. The requirements listed in this measure are impractical and would do more to inconvenience lawful gun owners more than deter criminals. For this reason, I am opposed to AB 962 as it is currently written.



Assembly Bill 1167 (Nielsen) "…would deem persons who have a valid permit or license to carry a concealed handgun issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state to be authorized to carry a concealed handgun pursuant to provisions of California law...." and would similarly "direct the Department of Justice to enter into reciprocity agreements with other states so that persons licensed in this state to carry concealed or loaded firearms would be authorized to do so in those other states. " AB 1167 is awaiting a hearing in the Assembly Public Safety Committee, although no hearing date has been set. It is likely that this bill will not secure enough votes for passage out of committee.



Senate Bill 41 (Lowenthal) would impose additional requirements on firearms dealers to track sales, returns and other transactions and report them to the California Department of Justice. Additional fees on dealers are also included in the bill which would likely be passed on to consumers. SB 41 passed the full Senate on June 1 by a vote of 21-14 and is now awaiting a hearing in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. I voted in opposition to this bill when it came before me.



Senate Bill 585 (Leno), a bill which would prohibit firearms sales at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. The language in SB 585 is virtually identical to the final language contained in Assembly Bill 2498 (Leno) from the 2007-08 legislative session and would prohibit firearms sales at the Cow Palace in San Francisco.



SB 585 is an effort to allow the City and/or County of San Francisco to discriminate against legitimate gun show participants and vendors who must comply with stringent state regulations affecting licensing, sales, background checks, liability and other provisions of state law governing gun shows, although the property in question is owned by the state, not the county. SB 585 passed the full Senate on June 3 by a vote of 21-18 and is now awaiting a committee assignment in the Assembly. I also voted against this bill when it came before me.



Senate Bill 697 (DeSaulnier) is a re-introduction of Assembly Bill 2235 a bill from the 2007-08 legislative session by the same author relating to "owner-authorized" handguns. AB 2235 passed the Assembly but was held under submission in the Senate Appropriations Committee and died without further action. SB 697 was scheduled for a hearing in the Senate Public Safety Committee; however, the author has decided to defer action on the bill until next year.



"Smart gun" technology may be perfected in the future, and "owner authorized" weapons may one day secure a niche in the marketplace. However, the potential availability of such weapons for those who wish to purchase them should not preclude the legal possession, purchase or transfer of other traditional firearms. For this reason, I am opposed to SB 697 as written.



Senate Bill 776 (Hancock) would require owners of large-capacity magazines to register them with the Department of Justice. This bill is now a two-year bill and will not be acted upon until the Legislature re-convenes in 2010. I am opposed to this bill as written.



During the 2007-08 legislative session, other gun control-related bills were approved by the Legislature and signed into law by Governor Schwarzenegger:



Assembly Bill 821 (Nava) would require the use of non-lead rifle and handgun ammunition for hunting in certain areas as to reduce the risk of lead poisoning to the endangered California Condor. While the goal of protecting the endangered California Condor has merit, in my view the provisions contained in this bill were excessive and of dubious value. AB 821 passed from the Senate on September 4, 2007 by a vote of 23 to 15. I voted against the bill at that time. The bill was signed into law by the Governor on October 13, 2007.



Assembly Bill 1471 (Feuer) would require all handguns sold after January 1, 2010 to include micro-stamped identifying information that would be transferred to each dispensed bullet cartridge as it was fired. T echnical issues aside, it is my opinion that such a program will not lead to any significant reduction in gun violence, nor will it increase conviction rates of gun-related crimes. Moreover, the bill has the potential to inconvenience and even implicate lawful gun owners whose guns were stolen and used in the commission of a crime. AB 1471 passed the Senate on September 6, 2007 by a vote of 21 to 17. I voted in opposition to the bill at that time. In addition to voting against the bill, along with my Senate Republican Colleagues I urged the Governor to veto the bill. Despite our efforts, the Governor signed the legislation on October 13, 2007.



If you are interested in tracking the progress of current legislation, you may access the status, votes, bill text and analyses of this and other legislation from my Senate home page at Home - CA State Senator Dave Cox.



Again, thank you for taking the time to relay your views. Please feel free to communicate with me in the future on other issues of interest.



Sincerely,



DAVE COX

Senator, First District

[Kappy]

So what's the best thing I can do now? I wrote my local assemblyman asking for his stance, but haven't received a response as of yet. In his defense, it was only yesterday...

[MrBrent]

This passed the Senate!! We all need to call and write Arnold and tell him to veto this!!!

[Kappy]

Originally Posted by BonoVox

Unreal!

So bets on Arnold veto?

This must be their version of payback for their stupid ballot initiatives getting thrown back in their face!!!

Actually, because of those "stupid ballot initiatives," a lot of good teachers are being laid off, fire departments are being closed, police are being laid off, etc.

But I still don't want this 962 to pass.

[nosmatt]

good lord. why even bother with my ccw if this passes?

50 rounds a month? how would one stay in practice?

Is transporting over state lines an issue with this SB? i do have family in both AZ, and NV. but damn, i would not make the drive to either for less than 2-3 thousand rounds.

[IAmASensFan]

My Response:

Dear Assembly Members,

I am writing this note to urge you to block passage of AB 962. I am the owner of a private security company primarily involved in the field of executive protection and this bill would adversely affect my ability to conduct business and train my people, which is unconstitutional.

I buy ammo in bulk as it is very hard to come by as it is.

This bill will adversely affect the legitimate use of firearms and will in no way affect a criminals ability to get ammunition, or keep anyone from purchasing on the black market or in other states.

Once again this is feel good legislation so you can try and bull**** your constituents into thinking you are actually doing something worthwhile.

Thank you for your time.

Greg G

Thank you for your time

I have a page on my site where you can mail all of the dirtbags...I mean assemblypersons at one time.

AB962

[Kappy]

I received a response via snailmail from Neilson today. He is against this bill and is pushing for CCW reciprocity. I must say that I have a lot of respect not only for his stance but for how he phrased his letter. I might have to put him on my wife's Christmas card list. So would I bother contacting my senator now?

[Kappy]

I should also point out again that the bill doesn't seem to limit how much you can buy but rather who can sell. I'm guessing Walmart wouldn't bother. Who knows what foolishness would be involved in getting registered as an ammo seller? Would police have to purchase from the same vendors? Would you have to have the equivalent of an FFL to sell ammo?

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by Kappy

I should also point out again that the bill doesn't seem to limit how much you can buy but rather who can sell. I'm guessing Walmart wouldn't bother. Who knows what foolishness would be involved in getting registered as an ammo seller? Would police have to purchase from the same vendors? Would you have to have the equivalent of an FFL to sell ammo?

the main thing is tht you cant even give ammo to the guy in the lane next to you unless it is less than 50 rounds....thats the sneaky part.

So...range days among friends could result in people breaking the law...etc etc.

[spc]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

the main thing is tht you cant even give ammo to the guy in the lane next to you unless it is less than 50 rounds....thats the sneaky part.

So...range days among friends could result in people breaking the law...etc etc.

Very interesting point. This is a very nasty law and soo unnecessary.

What ever happened to politicians who are sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States?

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[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by spc

Very interesting point. This is a very nasty law and soo unnecessary.

What ever happened to politicians who are sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States?

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They cave to the promise of something that benefits them more than us.