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Old 07-08-2008, 10:49 AM
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The weapon has to remain within your control. Many consider that to be within arm length. So with that as the definition, with a CCW you can place your weapon in a center consol while you are in the car.

Once you exit the vehicle, the gun is no longer within your control and would need to be secured in a legal manner.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:26 AM
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It has to be in you immediate control. I think center consol would qualify while you are driving. But you would have to take it with you or secure it properly if you left it in the vehicle.
I've also thought this was correct but have never seen it confirmed. No I don't need proof just a simple confirmation will do.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:55 AM
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The weapon has to remain within your control. Many consider that to be within arm length. So with that as the definition, with a CCW you can place your weapon in a center consol while you are in the car.

Once you exit the vehicle, the gun is no longer within your control and would need to be secured in a legal manner.
And probably not a good idea - too easy to forget it, and then *bam* you're a law-breaker. And getting arrested for that is likely to cost you your permit at a minimum, and all your firearms for 10 years if you're convicted...
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:01 PM
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IMHO ...... "Carry" means "carry" ... be it in a briefcase, on your hip, in your hat, in the sole of your shoe (ok, so I saw Get Smart the other day.... highly recommended - ).

When not in "carry" mode, must be secured as law states.

Can't really be more simple than that, but I've been wrong before, just ask my wife.
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:17 PM
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it wasn't that i didn't believe him it was i wanted the law i tried to find it but i must have looked in the wrong places if the gun is in the glove box and considered concealed wouldn't having a ccw permit cover that i drive a truck so no trunk to store it in

thanks for all the info i didn't want to start a fight or argument
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:21 PM
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it wasn't that i didn't believe him it was i wanted the law i tried to find it but i must have looked in the wrong places if the gun is in the glove box and considered concealed wouldn't having a ccw permit cover that i drive a truck so no trunk to store it in

thanks for all the info i didn't want to start a fight or argument

If you drive a vehicle with no trunk (like a truck, van), use a locking case. I like a hard-sided locking handgun case for range trips, and I use a single center-of-mass case with lock and cable for quick trips to "no guns allowed" locations (post office, federal buildings, etc.).
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:27 PM
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It wasn't that I didn't believe him. I wanted the law. I tried to find it, but I must have looked in the wrong places. If the gun is in the glove box and considered concealed, wouldn't having a ccw permit cover that? I drive a truck, so no trunk to store it in.

Thanks for all the info. I didn't want to start a fight or argument.
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it wasn't that i didn't believe him it was i wanted the law i tried to find it but i must have looked in the wrong places if the gun is in the glove box and considered concealed wouldn't having a ccw permit cover that i drive a truck so no trunk to store it in

thanks for all the info i didn't want to start a fight or argument
No worries. I just want to understand your logic. That's all.
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if you had said yes i would still have asked where to find the info
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if you had said yes i would still have asked where to find the info
I'm glad to hear that. We are here to help.
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CCWI, if a CCW holder has it loaded in the center console, is that considered "in immediate possession"?
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CCWI, if a CCW holder has it loaded in the center console, is that considered "in immediate possession"?
It would seem so to me, if it were illegal drugs the law would consider you in possesion. Right?
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I (ccw holder) put it in my arm rest console all the time... Or under the seat... Or on the seat next to me (with a coat over it, etc) the glove box is a PITA to get to in a hurry.... So I dont put it there...
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It would seem so to me, if it were illegal drugs the law would consider you in possesion. Right?

The reason for the question is that our SME may have been involved in past testimony on this issue and I wanted to hear what his experiences have been.

PC issue on drugs is very clear, but not as crystal clear on handguns.
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The reason for the question is that our SME may have been involved in past testimony on this issue and I wanted to hear what his experiences have been.

PC issue on drugs is very clear, but not as crystal clear on handguns.
Key words. Your CCW gun must be under your dominion and control. A arms length is the rule of thumb.
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