pics of method of traveling with handgun in car

[jakemccoy]

The pics below show a method of travel in a car with a handgun. The unloaded handgun is locked in a container and placed in the door. The ammo is in the center console. According to the following notice from the Department of Justice, this carry method is legal.

Traveling with Firearms in California - Bureau of Firearms - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General

[BonoVox]

I see your gun rug does not have a metal D Ring on it. The lock is going through fabric.

Does that make a difference?

I am directing this more to our "Subject Matter Expert".


I ask because I have a couple of cheap gun rugs that don't have D Rings too. My more expensive ones. I will try to take a couple of photos. The ones I have are probably less secure than the one in the photos above.

[BonoVox]

BTW that is not the best place to keep your handgun. I once saw a guy getting on the freeway REshut his door as he drove up the onramp and watched his wallet that was stored similarly to your handgun fly out the car.

He kept driving. I got the wallet and caught up to him. "on the way to Vegas" He was shocked when I pulled along side and flashed HIS wallet at him.

[hygyliac]

Originally Posted by BonoVox

BTW that is not the best place to keep your handgun. I once saw a guy getting on the freeway REshut his door as he drove up the onramp and watched his wallet that was stored similarly to your handgun fly out the car.

He kept driving. I got the wallet and caught up to him. "on the way to Vegas" He was shocked when I pulled along side and flashed HIS wallet at him.

Did you tell him that you were the Hyway? And when you handed the wallet back to him, just before he could say anything, did you tell him . . . "Silence, I keel you"

[PUNK]

Originally Posted by hygyliac

Did you tell him that you were the Hyway? And when you handed the wallet back to him, just before he could say anything, did you tell him . . . "Silence, I keel you"

always making me fall out of my chair.

[CCWInstructor]

A lock is a lock. A "D" is not required.

Originally Posted by BonoVox

I see your gun rug does not have a metal D Ring on it. The lock is going through fabric.

Does that make a difference?

I am directing this more to our "Subject Matter Expert".


I ask because I have a couple of cheap gun rugs that don't have D Rings too. My more expensive ones. I will try to take a couple of photos. The ones I have are probably less secure than the one in the photos above.

[BonoVox]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

A lock is a lock. A "D" is not required.

Thanks CCWI! Made my life easier as I won't have to keep carting my duct tape carrying case around anymore!

[Hank Dodge]

OK....Here's a question. If the firearm is unloaded and in a locked case such as the one pictured, where does the ammunition need to be to remain within the law? As he shows his transport method, my first thought is that the ammunition is not locked away separate from the firearm; and therefore might as well be in an outer pocket of the same storage case. Also, his pictured magazine is loaded; can this be construed as being part of the gun and therefore be a loaded weapon??

At what point does the law consider the firearm to be "unloaded and stored in a locked container" as his link describes? If I have a case where the weapon can be locked in the main compartment, is it legal to carry a loaded magazine or loose ammunition in a side pocket?


Hank

[Hoser]

Originally Posted by Hank Dodge

If I have a case where the weapon can be locked in the main compartment, is it legal to carry a loaded magazine or loose ammunition in a side pocket?

Yes. For example, a range bag w/ one or more locking compartments. Lock the gun in lockable compartment and the ammo can be in one of the other compartments (locked or not.)

[CCWInstructor]

The loaded mag can not be inside the locked container. The law says you can keep it inside though. After you are arrested and pay your lawyer you will win against the charge.

[Hoser]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

The loaded mag can not be inside the locked container. The law says you can keep it inside though. After you are arrested and pay your lawyer you will win against the charge.

I hear ya. As much as it may be legal, I would place the ammo somewhere else when I was in the vehicle, then throw it in the bag when I was heading into the range.

[akulahawk]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

The loaded mag should not be inside the locked container. The law says you can keep it inside though. After you are arrested and pay your lawyer you will win against the charge.

I'd call this the "Save your Pocketbook" strategy. I sure as heck don't want to have to pay a lawyer mucho $$$ to defend against a charge that could be easily avoided from the outset.

Another way to put it is: there's legal... and then there's prudent...

[Hank Dodge]

Originally Posted by Hoser

Yes. For example, a range bag w/ one or more locking compartments. Lock the gun in lockable compartment and the ammo can be in one of the other compartments (locked or not.)

That's what I was asking. I've had LEOs say that it was just fine; but, enough other folks have said that it wasn't to make me wonder. As I read the law, it's just the weapon itself that needs to be unloaded and locked. I'm no lawyer, and that's just my interpretation on it. I hope to never argue the point in court.


Hank

[akulahawk]

Originally Posted by Hank Dodge

That's what I was asking. I've had LEOs say that it was just fine; but, enough other folks have said that it wasn't to make me wonder. As I read the law, it's just the weapon itself that needs to be unloaded and locked. I'm no lawyer, and that's just my interpretation on it. I hope to never argue the point in court.


Hank

Having to do that costs $$$. I think we all here want to keep ours...

[PUNK]

Originally Posted by akulahawk

Having to do that costs $$$. I think we all here want to keep ours...

I sure do, the more i save by following the laws the more guns i can buy from a guy