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Old 10-11-2009, 04:36 PM
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Default AB962 Well It Is Waiting Time.......ughghghhg

Governor has signed over 100 bills and vetoed about the same. A lot more to go. I REALLY hope we pull through on this one!!!

Should know within a few hours one way or the other.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:24 PM
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Where does one look to see what bills are signed or vetoed? Is there a website that lists the status of bills in this regard?
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:39 PM
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Saw this on another site...

The Governor's office is posting the most up to date information here:
Office of the Governor :: Press Releases Archives

The current list of signs/veto is: Legislative Update
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Another link to the many updated bills:

Capitol Alert: Schwarzenegger signs 89 bills, vetoes 94
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If 962 is not signed today,

will it defer to Tuesday?

As tomorrow is a Federal Holiday,

is it also a State Holiday?
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He has until midnight tonight to veto. If he doesn't sign, it becomes law. No extensions allowed. He vetoed the Cow Palace Gun Show ban bill for financial (tax revenue) reasons. So there is still hope.

Keep watching this link, it is the backdoor to the veto messages:

Index of /pdf/press/2009bills
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One down and ONE to go!!!!
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He also vetoed SB41, which would have required more paperwork on a gun purchase.http://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/2009bill...to_Message.pdf

To the Members of the California State Senate:
I am returning Senate Bill 41 without my signature.
This measure would require the Department of Justice (Department) to furnish, upon
request, information concerning a person’s ownership of any firearms reported to the
Department. In addition, this measure would also require firearms dealers and purchasers
to provide signatures on extra copies of paperwork prior to the delivery of a firearm.
This measure is unnecessary. The Department already provides firearm ownership
information upon request and firearms transactions already require more than enough
paperwork to ensure proper recordation of firearm transaction information. Indeed,
unlike Senate Bills 175 & 449, which I am signing, this measure does not appear to have
any discernible benefit; it does not increase public safety, does not improve the business
climate for California’s firearms retailers, nor does it provide any additional protections
for firearm purchasers.
Moreover, it should be noted that Assembly Concurrent Resolution 73 (McCarthy, 2006)
required the California Law Revision Commission to submit recommendations to the
Legislature on how to reduce the length and complexity of Title 2 (commencing with
Section 12000) of Part 4 of the Penal Code, relating to the control of deadly weapons.
Senate Bill 41, unfortunately, does not follow any of the recommendations by the
Commission and instead exacerbates the current problems with the Penal Code.
I urge the Legislature to forgo enacting additional measures such as Senate Bill 41 until
the recommendations of the California Law Revision Commission are enacted.
For these reasons, I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger
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He has until midnight tonight to veto. If he doesn't sign, it becomes law. No extensions allowed. He vetoed the Cow Palace Gun Show ban bill for financial (tax revenue) reasons. So there is still hope.

Keep watching this link, it is the backdoor to the veto messages:

Index of /pdf/press/2009bills
Thanks for link! Man I am tired.....been on road all day! But can't sleep until I hear the news! Come on Arnold stamp that big veto on that POS!!!!

BTW Tango I saw your post on SB41..........we can only hope the line of thinking continues......
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Fingers crossed here too!
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I simply cannot imaging the tear in the fabric on our universe if this become law. Bad things are going to materialize from this day onward.
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The statement in vetoed SB41 is encouraging:

........ "does not improve the business climate for California’s firearms retailers".................

hopefully this will align with 962
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Not only did he not veto it..... he friggin signed it!

Governor Signs AB962 Restricting Ammunition
Monday, 12 October 2009 04:34 | Author: GND Staff |
AB962, the bill that would restrict ammunition sales in California was signed this past evening by Governor Schwarzennegger. His comments are below:

"To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962.

This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-face transfer of ammunition sales.


Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.

Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms.

Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful
local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by
mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.


As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.

Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."
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BUMMER

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