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Old 10-12-2009, 10:26 AM
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Very sad day for California and for the Commerce Clause of the USC.

Arizona is sounding better all the time!
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:47 AM
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I believe Gary Coleman was running...oh, and that porn star.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:07 AM
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It was him or a Dem. At least we had a chance with Ahnold.
UMMM... what about the primary election where we had a chance to put up a conservative?
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:13 AM
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Take me back to the elections? Did I miss an electable candidate that was any better on an issue like this?

Ok help me out who do we vote for in 2010?
If I recall correctly there was Tom McClintock in the primary but I also remember everyone going googoo over ahhhhnold because of his celebrity.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:23 AM
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If I recall correctly there was Tom McClintock in the primary but I also remember everyone going googoo over ahhhhnold because of his celebrity.
The primary would have been in his re-election.

During the recall election (when everybody went googoo over him) he was the only one who could beat Cruz Bustamante and give people a reason to recall Davis.

I doubt neither of those two would be any better for California gun rights.
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I sent the Governor an email expressing my disappointment. I suggest you all do the same.
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UMMM... what about the primary election where we had a chance to put up a conservative?
I'm not sure that there are any elected Republicans left that are a even bit more conservative than the Democrats. They posture and pretend but it's all a game to them. Look at the sales tax increase - all but a handful of Republicans were for the tax increase but pretended to be against it so they could get reelected.
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I'm not sure that there are any elected Republicans left that are a even bit more conservative than the Democrats. They posture and pretend but it's all a game to them. Look at the sales tax increase - all but a handful of Republicans were for the tax increase but pretended to be against it so they could get reelected.
Hence my overwhelming urge to move........

It is not even an uphill battle in this state fighting crappy legislation.....it is a vertical fight.

Our only hope as far as the 2nd is concerned is the Federal Courts.

As far as the other issues our state faces I guess it just has to implode on itself and then MAYBE the state will be able to pull itself out of the abyss.

700 BILLS!!!!!! WTF?????

You know in Texas their legislators only convene once every two years.

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Old 10-12-2009, 06:52 PM
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UNCLE,,,, I almost give up. They just do not represent my beliefs. Maybe with the state going into bankruptcy will get their attention. All they want to do is steel our rights, spend more than they have and raise our taxes.

What will they do when all of the taxpayers leave and all of the welfare recipients want more???

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California Budget Is Already in the Red 10 Weeks After Passage - Bloomberg.com





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By William Selway and Michael B. Marois

Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger will know within a month whether a $1.1 billion drop in revenue collections is part of a growing budget shortfall or an isolated event, his budget spokesman said.

Revenue in the three months ended Sept. 30 was 5.3 percent less than assumed in the $85 billion annual budget, state controller John Chiang reported yesterday. Income tax receipts led the gap, as unemployment reached 12.2 percent in August.

“The culprit here appears to be estimated quarterly personal income tax statements,” H.D. Palmer, the governor’s budget spokesman, said yesterday. “The numbers are cause for concern, but the issue now for us is to determine if this is a one-time event or whether it has more long-term implications.”

The latest figures show that California is facing resurgent fiscal strains brought on by the U.S. recession. Since February, Schwarzenegger and lawmakers have cut $32 billion from spending, raised taxes by $12.5 billion and covered $6 billion more with accounting gimmicks and borrowing. Even with those actions, state budget officials predict an additional $38 billion in deficits in the next three fiscal years combined, including $7.4 billion in the year starting July 1.

Schwarzenegger must present a budget for the coming fiscal year in January. The state’s Franchise Tax Board will deliver new data to the governor in November.

Debt Sales

The budget news comes as the most populous U.S. state prepares to sell as much as $15 billion of bonds in the next nine months to refinance debt and fund public-works projects, and as a surge in fixed-rate municipal issuance sent benchmark rates up by the most in almost four months.

California, already the largest borrower in the municipal market, may offer $4 billion of debt during the week of Oct. 26 to refinance the bonds used by Schwarzenegger to cover previous budget deficits. The budget enacted in July would allow the sale of as much as $11 billion more of general obligation bonds through the June 30 end of the fiscal year if financial markets allow, state Treasurer Bill Lockyer said. The exact sale amount hasn’t been decided.

“If the market is inhospitable, we won’t go,” Lockyer said in an interview yesterday. “We’ll just have to wait and see how the feelings are when we get ready to think about it again.”

Additional bond sales by California would follow an offering of $4.1 billion of general obligation bonds this week.

Scaled-Back Offering

The state was forced to scale back the size of the deal by almost $400 million as benchmark yields surged. The yields climbed after gains in the tax-exempt market last week pushed them to a 42-year low.

California’s sale follows a two-month rally in municipal bond prices, fueled by a record flow of money into mutual funds that outweighed lingering fiscal strains on localities, said Craig Elder at Milwaukee-based Robert W. Baird & Co.

U.S. Treasuries also fell, sending two-year notes toward their first weekly loss since the period ended Sept. 18. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said the central bank is ready to tighten monetary policy once the outlook for the economy improves.

California, a state that’s been among the hardest hit by the recession, had already issued $22 billion of debt since March, including $8.8 billion of notes that provided the state with an advance on taxes collected next year.

Even after increasing what it would pay, California still borrowed more cheaply than during previous offerings. A taxable California bond maturing in 2039 yielded 7.23 percent this week, down from a yield of 7.43 percent during a sale in April.

“Everybody thinks there’s still an appetite for California bonds,” Lockyer said. “There’s certainly a continuing need for long-term investments in schools, high-speed rail, stem-cell research centers and so on.”

To contact the reporter on this story: William Selway in San Francisco at wselway@bloomberg.net; Michael B. Marois in Sacramento at mmarois@bloomberg.net
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:13 PM
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Looks like i'll be loading up on ammo with every trip to Az and Nv. Time to stock up on reloading components.
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Arnold try to say that the fingerprint requirement is not any different than the pawn shop requirement for the same and I assume why he allowed Internet sales to be banned. So using that logic I guess he should ban ebay sales in California.
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The Fat Lady hasn't sung. There are a number of Pro-Gun Organizations that discussing a lawsuit over certain provisions of the law that deal with premption of Interstate Commerce Laws.
I suggest we investigate who is doing what to overturn this nasty piece and support them financially and with letters to the legislature. If you didn't help in the past, now is the time.
We are also accepting at face value the "Success" of the ammo registration ordinances in LA and Sacramento. Quite frankly I don't believe that ammo registration logs were the source of arrests. There simply isn't that kind of time resources for LE to search these records.
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Once again, when does this law take effect?
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Once again, when does this law take effect?
Over a year from now, February, 2011.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:54 AM
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You know in Texas their legislators only convene once every two years.
It is because they run their state like America was intended to be run by our founding fathers. Take note CA.
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