When does a gun become a gun?

[nosmatt]

Originally Posted by rycerz

It gets more complicated then that.... IIRC if you choose to go that route then:
1. Expect to get harassed (equal to the open carry folks)
2. Expect to make sure that you don't travel too close to schools and so on...

there's more to that... so...... lets go back to square one: lock it up and keep it simple.

precisely. hence my second sentence.

i would not, will not, and do not do it.

[RedMongoosE]

cant you just unload it, throw it in a soft pistol case ,throw a lock on it and keep it on the seat next to you? im sure if you really needed to, you could rip the lock off and tear open the zipper.


Is that not perfectly leagal locked container?

[EM2]

Originally Posted by rycerz

It gets more complicated then that.... IIRC if you choose to go that route then:
1. Expect to get harassed (equal to the open carry folks)
2. Expect to make sure that you don't travel too close to schools and so on...

there's more to that... so...... lets go back to square one: lock it up and keep it simple.

There are plenty of easy to use options out there.
Center Of Mass Central

[OIS]

Golly, I can not find a citation for this statement. Would someone please provide it.

Many thanks!

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by OIS

Golly, I can not find a citation for this statement. Would someone please provide it.

Many thanks!

If you order a FRAME you have to have it shipped to an FFL and it needs to be DROS'ed. It's as simple as that.

[G36 Steve]

Originally Posted by OIS

Golly, I can not find a citation for this statement. Would someone please provide it.

Many thanks!

U.S. Code Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 44
§ 921. Definitions
(a) As used in this chapter—
(1) The term “person” and the term “whoever” include any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, or joint stock company.
(2) The term “interstate or foreign commerce” includes commerce between any place in a State and any place outside of that State, or within any possession of the United States (not including the Canal Zone) or the District of Columbia, but such term does not include commerce between places within the same State but through any place outside of that State. The term “State” includes the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the possessions of the United States (not including the Canal Zone).
(3) The term “firearm” means
(A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive;
(B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon;
(C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or
(D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

[OIS]

Right on Steve! Now that's a proper citation.

Thanks again!

[G36 Steve]

Originally Posted by OIS

G26 Steve.

Right on Steve! Now that's a proper citation.

Thanks again!

Attention to details - I don't own a 9mm (G26)

Your welcome.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by G36 Steve

Attention to details - I don't own a 9mm (G26)

Your welcome.

Attention to details - it's you're welcome.

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by THE Gimper

Attention to details - it's you're welcome.

ROTFLMAO!

[G36 Steve]

Originally Posted by THE Gimper

Attention to details - it's you're welcome.

Got me!
I forgot all about the spelling Nazis that lurk here.
You're 100% correct.
I hope someday you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by G36 Steve

Got me!
I forgot all about the spelling Nazis that lurk here.
You're 100% correct.
I hope someday you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.

I'm sorry. I couldn't resist.

[Aurelius]

the Cal Attorney General, among other postings, provides the following summary of California law. As relevant to this discussion, it is lawful to transport a concealable weapon in a vehicle if it is unloaded and locked in the trunk. See page 28 of the document at the following link:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by Aurelius

the Cal Attorney General, among other postings, provides the following summary of California law. As relevant to this discussion, it is lawful to transport a concealable weapon in a vehicle if it is unloaded and locked in the trunk. See page 28 of the document at the following link:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf

Of course the difficulty there is, how do you get it into your trunk without violating the law? We've had several threads discussing that one. keep reading.

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by Aurelius

the Cal Attorney General, among other postings, provides the following summary of California law. As relevant to this discussion, it is lawful to transport a concealable weapon in a vehicle if it is unloaded and locked in the trunk. See page 28 of the document at the following link:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf

And will they defend you in court when they forgot to publish everything?

12026.1. (a) Section 12025 shall not be construed to prohibit any
citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or
is temporarily within this state, and who is not prohibited by state
or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a
firearm, from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, provided that
the following applies to the firearm:
(1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the
vehicle's trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle other than
the utility or glove compartment.
(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any
motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm,
the firearm is contained within a locked container.