Is my Mossberg 500 Cruiser a shotgun or is it not a shotgun in California?

[sealbeach]

Originally Posted by wfb18

Thank you so much for your help, from four Senior Founding Members, no less. My friend tonight at work, who has spent much time in California, listened to my thoughts about this and essentially he told me the same thing as you are saying. I concede to your (and my friend's) very practical wisdom.
May I ask one more question please, before you delete this thread? Can one transport an unloaded pistol and a full magazine of ammunition in a locked, armored, bolted-down container within the vehicle's interior, while he waits for a California C.C.W. license to be issued?
Thank you all kindly for your help!

Ammo and gun must be seperate. put the unloaded gun in the locked container, and you can put the magazine of ammo anywhere. A huge requirement is however, you cannot bolt that lockbox to the vehicle, you should chain it or use a steel cable to lock it to the vehicle. (it if is bolted, it legally becomes part of the vehicle). I use a steel cable, lock the locked box to my seat base, it is legal and secure. No, you will not have quick access, that is the intent of the law I guess.

This issue has been reworked on the forum MANY times, just too lazy to search it and post links. Many of us use the Center of Mass brand lock boxes, which come with a steel cable...it makes you legal and provides some security for your gun.

[spc]

Originally Posted by RomanDad

Honestly, I wouldnt worry about 12031.....

If you carry the shotgun in the cab with a bunch of shells attached to it, ANYWHERE in urban california, some busybody westside mommy type will see it.... And they will report it... And when they report it, they tend to EMBELLISH....

THAT would be my concern....


Your analysis of people v clark means nothing if the soccer mom calls the cops and says"theres a horible man and he has a shotgun in his car and he pointed it at me...."


Yes.... People lie. The more ideologically driven they are, the more likely they are to lie. Its harder to lie when they cant see the gun. Carry it in the trunk or in a locked container.

I have spent a LOT of time in Kentucky (I love it btw)...

THIS AINT KENTUCKY. Many of the people here lack common sense....

Not only is common sense lacking in a large portion of the population, Most of those with any common sense refuse to use it.

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