Leather vs. Plastic.

[CCWInstructor]

One CCW'er in another county got his permit pulled for open carry. He never did appeal it. . . . .

[RAD-G27]

Going back to the original title of the post "Leather vs. Plastic. " I would vote for Leather. IWB Vs. OWB is a personal preference, I prefer the Galco Slide Paddle myself, never could get use to the feel of IWB, but others like it. Something about Leather on metal/plastic sounds like it would be easier on the piece that Plastic on metal/plastic.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

One CCW'er in another county got his permit pulled for open carry. He never did appeal it. . . . .

yes...I remember that thread.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by Rob P.

Opencarry.org is a good link for good info. Go there and learn.

In a nutshell because this is not within the scope of this site....

Funny...I could have sworn that there was a limit to the population of the county.

I don't plan on open carrying, so the specifics don't interest me. Thats why I directed him to opencarry.org, although, I have to go with your contention that if you aren't damn sure of what the law is, don't do it.

[El Gato]

Originally Posted by Rob P.

Opencarry.org is a good link for good info. Go there and learn.

In a nutshell because this is not within the scope of this site....

Open carry IS possible but it has it's hazzards. For me, I've been doing it for a couple of decades and know the rules of when, where, and how. There are distinct "areas" with separate "rules". INcorporated, Restricted, and UNincorportated. There are also sub "areas" like Primary place of business which make things even more interesting but I won't go into them.

If you are in an INcorporated or Restricted area:

You cannot carry a LOADED firearm. "Loaded" is a defined term and there is an appellate court decision in this area as well.

You can ONLY carry OPENLY. ANYTHING which conceals the firearm results in concealed carry and that is illegal (without a permit) even if the firearm is unloaded.

Your holster MUST BE a "belt" holster and openly visible.

If you are in an UNincorporated area:

You may carry your firearm loaded.

It MUST BE openly visible

It MUST BE in a "belt" holster


IN ANY CASE:

You CANNOT carry in restricted areas like school zones even openly. If you are in such a zone your firearm must be in a locked container or trunk.

You cannot carry in the same areas that CCW is prohibited.

You MUST BE aware that you WILL BE stopped by the police at some point. Most of the time this stop will NOT be "fun" for you. I have been stopped several times but never for a firearms check since most of the time I am in UNincorporated areas.

You are required to submit to a firearms check to see if the weapon is unloaded when you are in those areas where it cannot be loaded.

You MUST present identification when requested.

And, I will say no more except to add that if you do not KNOW the rules, do not do this. If you do know the rules but cannot accept the EXTREMELY high risk of arrest, do not do this. For me, I'm in a high-risk line of work. My safety and my life are worth more than the risks associated with open carry.

Thanks Sens for the info on the Carrylok.

Ok... all of this is making my brain hurt.... I know people who carry openly in businesses etc... no big deal.... What I cant get past is the idea that a 6906 is a "light" gun...

Taught a CCW class tonight and one of the guys was shooting a CDP II Ultra... the little bitty airweight thingee one... now that was light! !

OK and it shot well and didn't jam... I said it, the Kimber didn't jam... and it was light and accurate blahblahblah... and I liked it and was jealous and now I want one OK ....now all of you mini-kimber people can gloat that you have won a new convert... from big old steel govt. models to yes I like the itty bitty kimbers..... everyone happy?

[Glock32]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

Funny...I could have sworn that there was a limit to the population of the county.

I don't plan on open carrying, so the specifics don't interest me. Thats why I directed him to opencarry.org, although, I have to go with your contention that if you aren't damn sure of what the law is, don't do it.

you are mixing things up. Tri-tip and mustard. That's a no-no.

In a county with a population of less than 200,000 the Sheriff can issue a permit to openly carry a loaded firearm IN THAT COUNTY, only. That's how I remember it, and I'm too lazy to look it up.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by Glock32

you are mixing things up. Tri-tip and mustard. That's a no-no.

In a county with a population of less than 200,000 the Sheriff can issue a permit to openly carry a loaded firearm IN THAT COUNTY, only. That's how I remember it, and I'm too lazy to look it up.

I think you are right...but like you, i am also too lazy to look it up.

[Rob P.]

Originally Posted by El Gato

Ok... all of this is making my brain hurt.... I know people who carry openly in businesses etc... no big deal.... What I cant get past is the idea that a 6906 is a "light" gun...

Taught a CCW class tonight and one of the guys was shooting a CDP II Ultra... the little bitty airweight thingee one... now that was light! !

OK and it shot well and didn't jam... I said it, the Kimber didn't jam... and it was light and accurate blahblahblah... and I liked it and was jealous and now I want one OK ....now all of you mini-kimber people can gloat that you have won a new convert... from big old steel govt. models to yes I like the itty bitty kimbers..... everyone happy?

The 6906 is an alloy frame with a SS slide compact pistol that holds 13 (pre ban). Compared to a full-sized pistol in a steel frame of the same capacity it weighs a LOT less. It CERTAINLY weighs a whole lot less than a full underlug 44 mag with 6" barrel (BTDT sold it to someone more macho than I am a LOOONNNG time ago).

I like the looks of a Kimber. It definitely has eye appeal. With the color and facets from checkering and edges it really does "glitter". I just don't need another automatic (well, maybe a Caspian long slide - someday - and a single six in 45 LC, and a.....).

CCWI, I carry openly because I don't have a concealed permit. When I get mine I will probably no longer openly carry within city limits and risk disfavor from the police.

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by El Gato

Taught a CCW class tonight and one of the guys was shooting a CDP II Ultra... the little bitty airweight thingee one... now that was light! !

OK and it shot well and didn't jam... I said it, the Kimber didn't jam... and it was light and accurate blahblahblah... and I liked it and was jealous and now I want one OK ....now all of you mini-kimber people can gloat that you have won a new convert... from big old steel govt. models to yes I like the itty bitty kimbers..... everyone happy?

told you so

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by El Gato

Ok... all of this is making my brain hurt.... I know people who carry openly in businesses etc... no big deal.... What I cant get past is the idea that a 6906 is a "light" gun...

Taught a CCW class tonight and one of the guys was shooting a CDP II Ultra... the little bitty airweight thingee one... now that was light! !

OK and it shot well and didn't jam... I said it, the Kimber didn't jam... and it was light and accurate blahblahblah... and I liked it and was jealous and now I want one OK ....now all of you mini-kimber people can gloat that you have won a new convert... from big old steel govt. models to yes I like the itty bitty kimbers..... everyone happy?

Don't worry. It's not a pod. It won't hurt you.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by Rob P.

I just don't need another automatic

Now that's just crazy talk!

[DVSmith]

OK, so am I the ONLY one who was sucked into this thread thinking exotic female apparel?

[Jarhead1978]

Originally Posted by Glock32

you are mixing things up. Tri-tip and mustard. That's a no-no.

In a county with a population of less than 200,000 the Sheriff can issue a permit to openly carry a loaded firearm IN THAT COUNTY, only. That's how I remember it, and I'm too lazy to look it up.

I looked it up...

California is not a traditional open carry state. Open carry is generally prohibited except in unincorporated areas where the county has not made open carry illegal, or, pursuant to a CA open carry permit issued and valid only in a county with a population of less than 200,000 persons. OpenCarry.org

Here in Humboldt County open carry is allowed. Also in Del Norte County, Trrinity County, and Siskiyou Counties at least.... Just have the firearm in plain view, not partially exposed from under your jacket. I use Military Surplus web gear with leather holsters for open carry here. Yet I also have my "License" for concealed carry in California.


I really like leather for holsters. Either an inside/ outside the waist band, shoulder holster, small of the back, fanny pack, etc. Bianchi makes quality gear... That and plastic holsters are not what this Jarhead is used to using. Put my Colt model 1911 in a piece of plastic!! It's feelings would be hurt, at the very least!!!!

[CCWInstructor]

The Emerald Triangle. Know it well.

[Jarhead1978]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

The Emerald Triangle. Know it well.

Ah yup!! The Emerald Triangle behind the Redwood Curtain right on the coast... That may be one reason why I prefer leather holsters for my CCW weapons... This is one of my CZ-52 in 7.62X25mm Tokarev, the one on my CCW License in fact.. Up here in a very rural area, I do not have to worry about overpenetration with a Soviet Bloc sub-machine gun round.



CZECH CZ-52 with a Hunter brand leather inside the waist band/ actually marketed as a 4 way holster (outside straight or canted, inside the waistband, and a shoulder holster with rigging. I got the holster off of Ebay for $9.99 and shipping...