gunsite low mount thumb saftey

[napaCCW]

I am trying these out on my TLE and my ultra cdp. I like them so far as they allow for a more natural thumb on saftey grip for me. Also giving me a more positive grip saftey engagement.

[hygyliac]

Some of the guys tried that a while back. If your style is to ride the safety, then it is very comfortable. I would place them on a range pistol . Some of the guys don't grip the pistol in this manner and they felt awkward with the lever so low. Even the left handers were saying that it was consciously on their mind that they may accidentally engage the manual safety during the rush of adreniline during dynamic movement/motion drills. Weak hand was a concern with every one that day.

Do you plan to place it on your CCW? Let us know if it is effected by the holster, no one that I know civilian nor LEO has carried that platform modified in such a manner because of the idea of changing the manual safety.

[napaCCW]

I was trained to ride the safety when shooting. The idea was to be ready to go when disengaging the safety. And to prevent the accident engagement of safety by having thumb under it and hitting thumb safety in a struggle. It works fine in the holster and I have also installed it on my ccw weapon.

Is there a concern for liability for changing the safety? It has no effect on function only makes it fit better.

[hygyliac]

Originally Posted by napaCCW

I was trained to ride the safety when shooting. The idea was to be ready to go when disengaging the safety. And to prevent the accident engagement of safety by having thumb under it and hitting thumb safety in a struggle. It works fine in the holster and I have also installed it on my ccw weapon.

Is there a concern for liability for changing the safety? It has no effect on function only makes it fit better.

It is comfortable. Some people don't ride the safety when they grip and when we went weak hand, we were wondering if we would accidentally engage the safety when moving.
Thanks for the information that it is not engaged when holstered. I think that was the main reason that I have not seen it used for CCW. Most o the guys carry a different platform and those of us that do carry .45 did not want to be the first to try it. Thanks for the input. It will make good conversation when the topic comes up at one of our .45 range sessions.

[AMS MIKE]

never heard of this, so i searched and read about it. found a comparison picture as well....

[hygyliac]

Originally Posted by AMS MIKE

never heard of this, so i searched and read about it. found a comparison picture as well....

Thanks AMSMike, the picture really helps. Imagine gripping the pistol in your left hand with the safety disangaged. That was the weird feeling when shooting weak hand. As .45 shooters you can see that with the safety down, it would be very comfortable to shoot when gripped in the right hand.

[MadMex]

I ride the thumb safety and prefer the leverage provided by the position of OEM. The Gunsite thumb safety ergonomics didn’t work for me.

[swdr]

I ride the thumb safety, but the grip I use is incompatible with the lowered version.

[napaCCW]

Alot of guys up this way swear by it and thats where I got the idea. And its an interesting question which is better? A more comfortable strong hand grip or one that serves the last resort weak hand? The ones I have look just like the one in the pic.

[swdr]

Originally Posted by napaCCW

And its an interesting question which is better? A more comfortable strong hand grip or one that serves the last resort weak hand?

For me, my grip is neither comfortable nor natural. But as to your choice, I'd pick the one with better outcome probability. Use the lowered safety if it makes sense for you.

[DVSmith]

Originally Posted by napaCCW

Is there a concern for liability for changing the safety? It has no effect on function only makes it fit better.

As long as the safety is still functional I can't see how it would affect liability. If it was more prone to being accidentally flipped off or caused failures, I guess you might have a problem if an accidental discharge occurred. Especially if it caused an injury or worse.

But then again, I am no lawyer and anything you read on the internet should never be confused with actual facts or legal advice.

[cksh8me]

It looks like it might be good for people with small hands that can't get their thumb on top of a "conventional" safety. It looks like it won't give you as much leverage and make it harder to get the gun down low in your hand.

[napaCCW]

Originally Posted by cksh8me

It looks like it might be good for people with small hands that can't get their thumb on top of a "conventional" safety. It looks like it won't give you as much leverage and make it harder to get the gun down low in your hand.

I have no problem getting on top of conventinal saftey. But I dont have small hands either. Was thumb on top the orginal intent of the OEM safety? It seems to me its so high so you have room under it.

[maldos]

I also ride the thumb safety. In the past I didn't and accidently engaged the safety during a range conflict drill set. Retrained myself and now feels natural.

[hygyliac]

Originally Posted by cksh8me

It looks like it might be good for people with small hands that can't get their thumb on top of a "conventional" safety. It looks like it won't give you as much leverage and make it harder to get the gun down low in your hand.

Had two separate conversations with a couple people who are walking encyclopedias with regards to the O Frame platform over the weekend. One mentioned that with the lower safety, the axis of the bore when gripped is higher than normal and therefore would be subject to more muzzle flip. The second encyclopedia mentioned that GunSite designed the lower safeties for their female students who had smaller hands and could not comfortably ride the OEM safeties. I still found it comfortable when shooting strong hand.