CalCCW  

Go Back   CalCCW > Concealed Carry in California > Gun Smithing
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Gun Smithing For discussiing maintenance of CCW guns only!!! No long guns, modifications or anything else not related to CCW guns.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-25-2008, 05:09 PM
OCRancher's Avatar
OCRancher OCRancher is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The land of the "Duke".
Posts: 2,394
Default M-Pro 7 Bore Gel

I picked up a bottle of this gel at Evans a couple of weeks back. Pat and Chris of Evans both recommended it.

I decided to use it on my Kimber Ultra CDP II. For those unfamiliar with that gun, it has a 3" barrel, which to me makes running a bore brush through multiple times a pain (big hands). Also, this gun has about 450 rounds through it on about 4 seperate range visits with no cleaning except for the initial when I got it. It has (ok, had) a heavy build up in the barrel.

Used the gel to see how much work it would do for me and how clean ultimately it would get. Works GREAT!. Shiny and smooth, and all I used was a bore swab to apply and to remove the gel. I followed up with CLP and that was it.

The product is a bit expensive, but for certain applications I think I will continue to stock it in my gun cleaning inventory.
__________________
"Saying a person has the right to defend themself, while not allowing them a CCW, is like espousing free speech as long as no verbs are involved." ~ Some really cool guy, circa 2007

"Mr. Heller maintains that disassembled rifles and shotguns are no substitute for handguns, "any more than the government could prohibit books because it permits newspapers and considers them an 'adequate substitute.'" "

"America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to change the system from within, yet too early to shoot the bastards." - Claire Wolf

"SHIMH"
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-25-2008, 05:55 PM
AMS MIKE's Avatar
AMS MIKE AMS MIKE is offline
CalCCW Resident PUNK
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 5,764
Default

I use M-Pro cleaner solution and the Oil and it seems to work great.

I'll look into the Bore Gel.
__________________
Wood $6. Tie Down $4. CCWI PTBOM...Priceless
My Other Car is a Kahr!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-25-2008, 10:08 PM
THE Gimper's Avatar
THE Gimper THE Gimper is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 4,634
Default

I used the regular cleaner for the first time last night to clean my CDP. I was really impressed with it. I don't care how much it costs, I'll continue to use it.
__________________
Rico

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justaguy
THE Gimper really IS an evil genius!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2008, 09:56 AM
libertarian's Avatar
libertarian libertarian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 877
Default

I tried the MPro stuff but I didn't think it was a big upgrade over Break-Free, and it's pricey. Meh. I'll stick with Break-Free.

Then again, I shoot Glock, so I have a lot less cleaning to do that you 1911 guys.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2008, 10:23 PM
THE Gimper's Avatar
THE Gimper THE Gimper is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 4,634
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by libertarian View Post
I tried the MPro stuff but I didn't think it was a big upgrade over Break-Free, and it's pricey. Meh. I'll stick with Break-Free.

Then again, I shoot Glock, so I have a lot less cleaning to do that you 1911 guys.
I haven't tried Break-Free, but M-Pro 7 is a big improvement over Hoppes #9, in my opinion.
__________________
Rico

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justaguy
THE Gimper really IS an evil genius!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2008, 10:36 PM
1buba's Avatar
1buba 1buba is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: El Dorado County
Posts: 2,466
Default

I did a little test on my 700 pss. Basically the same load, same bullet - 50 rounds each sitting. Each time i came back from the range, I tried strait hoppes #9, some Break-free, some foam out stuff (can't remember the name) and the M-pro.

It took a LOT of work with the hoppes and break-free. the foam stuff was ok, but it didn't clean the copper out. M-pro was best by far for my job.




To clarify, the smell of Hoppes still requires a cold shower...
__________________
Badgers Unite!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2008, 10:52 PM
crocoscottie's Avatar
crocoscottie crocoscottie is offline
OC Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Placentia, Orange County
Posts: 27
Default

I use liquid M-Pro 7 in a spray bottle and really like it for removing carbon fouling. The gel version sounds interesting but I haven't tried it yet. Does it get rid of copper any better than the liquid?

A little off topic, but what the heck:
Just recently (6 months or so) I discovered my new favorite way for removing copper fouling. It's called "Wipe-Out Brushless Bore Cleaner." It's a foaming type cleaner, doesn't do much for carbon (despite the hype on the side of the can), but is fantastic for copper. I'll do my normal cleaning to get the carbon fouling out, then if I can see copper in the bore I'll spray this stuff down the barrel, leave it sit overnight so it's got plenty of time to work, then in the morning push a dry patch through the barrel and watch the stream of pretty blue fluid drain out (doing this over a trash can is highly recommended!) Even better, it lacks that lovely ammonia aroma of so many other copper removers.
__________________
Optimist: "The glass is half-full."
Pessimist: "The glass is half-empty."
Engineer: "The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2008, 12:34 AM
sealbeach's Avatar
sealbeach sealbeach is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,856
Default

I use Hoppes #9, and in my blissfull ignorance, I THINK these gun barrels are squeaky clean. They certainly LOOK good, but I read about the evils of insidious "copper fouling" and I start to get the cold shivers and sweats in fear of this dreaded "copper fouling".

How do you know the fancy-ky-mpro gel stuff is doing a better job than plain old Hoppes #9? Could I have "copper fouling" and never know it? Is this as bad as the old "ring around the collar" commercials?

Mostly the bullets still leave the barrels at a decent rate of speed, so I guess things are OK, but I have lingering doubts, unspecified fears, even deep seated concerns..."COPPER FOULING" could be secretly causing me grief, YET I DON'T YET KNOW IT?!

WORSE THAN GERMS, VIRUSES OR EVEN (dare I even say it) LIBERALS!!!!!! Its COPPER FOULING!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2008, 12:41 AM
Hoser's Avatar
Hoser Hoser is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 75
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sealbeach View Post
WORSE THAN GERMS, VIRUSES OR EVEN (dare I even say it) LIBERALS!!!!!! ....
You forgot global warming!

Last edited by Hoser : 01-27-2008 at 12:46 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2008, 12:45 AM
sealbeach's Avatar
sealbeach sealbeach is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,856
Default

[quote=Hoser;30440]
Quote:
Originally Posted by sealbeach View Post
WORSE THAN GERMS, VIRUSES OR EVEN (dare I even say it) LIBERALS!!!!!! ....QUOTE]

You forgot global warming!
LOL! good one! Yep, thats another one!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2008, 07:22 AM
AMS MIKE's Avatar
AMS MIKE AMS MIKE is offline
CalCCW Resident PUNK
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 5,764
Default

As for the "copper fouling", I use the M-Pro7 copper remover after i use the regular cleaner on the bore and seems to work quite well.
__________________
Wood $6. Tie Down $4. CCWI PTBOM...Priceless
My Other Car is a Kahr!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2008, 07:36 AM
libertarian's Avatar
libertarian libertarian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 877
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1buba View Post
I did a little test on my 700 pss. Basically the same load, same bullet - 50 rounds each sitting. Each time i came back from the range, I tried strait hoppes #9, some Break-free, some foam out stuff (can't remember the name) and the M-pro.
Yeah, #9 can't be good for you if the fumes make you see things while cleaning your weapon. MPro-7 is pretty non-toxic, even less than CLP, which is not bad at all, but I just found the MPro worked on my carbon the same as CLP, and it's more expensive. I've also seen some not-very-scientific rust tests where it didn't fare too well, but I don't run my gun in salt water all that often.

I find that using CLP regularly makes it a snap to clean the next time, it leaves a teflon film that seems to keep the carbon from sticking.

YMMV.
__________________
Badgers?!? BADGERS!?!? We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2008, 10:34 PM
1buba's Avatar
1buba 1buba is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: El Dorado County
Posts: 2,466
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by libertarian View Post
Yeah, #9 can't be good for you if the fumes make you see things while cleaning your weapon.
I'm sorry - i meant the smell turns me on...
__________________
Badgers Unite!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2008, 02:15 AM
X-ffdo's Avatar
X-ffdo X-ffdo is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Bernardino Co.
Posts: 1,231
Default

I started using M Pro 7.
Their CLP....WOW !!! This stuff is superb. Cleans very well and no smell!!!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2008, 09:19 AM
BonoVox's Avatar
BonoVox BonoVox is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South Orange County, CA
Posts: 4,670
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AMS MIKE View Post
I use M-Pro cleaner solution and the Oil and it seems to work great.

I'll look into the Bore Gel.
I thought you bought the Bore Gel?? I have a bottle of it. Yeah I agree with OCRancher good stuff!
__________________
"Together We Win!!" ® Copyrighted 2008 , Quote borrowed from a man I respect...
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
©2007 CalCCW.com