Militec-1

[x-ricer]

has anyone heard of this stuff? any good? or stay away?

a couple le buddies of mine swear by this stuff....

MILITEC-1: The Ultimate Firearm Lubricant and Gun Oil

[45 ACP]

I use it on my handguns. Works well as far as I can tell. Dispenses easy and doesn't ooze out of every orifice. The guns seem to still be lubricated after field stripping for cleaning, even after 500+ round range days.

The mfg says you should "bake it in" by heating the parts you lubricate to allow the oil to bond with the metal on a molecular level. Never tried it, my wife made me stay away from the oven after I baked some Alumahyde coated parts one fateful day.

"Those aren't cookies you know!!!!" Oops.

Lately, I've been using Slip 2000 EWL on my semi-auto rifles. Seems to stay put more than MiliTec.

SLiP2000™ - EWL

Personally, I think just about any lube intended for moving metal parts will work just fine as long as it GETS USED. Proper and frequent lubrication (even on guns that don't get shot often) is important. I lube all my guns once a month, whether I shoot them or not.

I'm no metallurgist, that's just my experience-based opinion.

[libertarian]

I found this on their web site:

MILITEC-1 treated weapons have been tested and proven to be more accurate, deliver higher muzzle velocity with the same load, and show decreased wear at all critical wear points. Also, the weapons subjectively "feel" better in blind tests.

To me, that sounds like it violates a serious BS law. In any semi-auto firearm I can think of, muzzle velocity isn't affected by lubrication in any meaningful way. I'm also pretty skeptical of the 'molecular bonding that works within molecules' stuff. Seems pretty improbable to me.

While I'm sure the stuff works fine, if for no other reason then their marketing is BS, personally I'll avoid them. I've been using Breakfree for 12 years and I've never had any problem with it, so I see no need to change. Then again, I just put my glocks in the dishwasher most the time anyway. ;-)

YMMV.

[X-ffdo]

Is that stuff like a dry lube? For dusty environments?

[libertarian]

Originally Posted by X-ffdo

Is that stuff like a dry lube? For dusty environments?

It's a wet polymer-based lube.

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by 45 ACP

I lube all my guns once a month, whether I shoot them or not.

Yikes! you either don't have that many guns or have a looot of time
But you are right: lube will dry up. A lot of lubricating agents coagulate after a time and or get bonded to dust particles (dust is everywhere, just in different amounts so it's just a matter of time). Frequent lubrication is the key to making sure it's ready for you when you need it.

I've been recently toying with an idea of identify what I shoot rarely and lubing the hell out of it (ok, nothing to the extent of dipping the stuff in cosmoline) and then cleaning it before I want to take it shooting. That way a safe queen that does not get touched for a while will stay in good shape for a while. The firearms that I take on a regular basis, well, I make sure they're cycled about once every two months or so. What does that mean? That means that I try to shoot them once every two months so that I get the excuse to lube them. Unfortunately I don't stick to that schedule too often due to lack of time. Seing your post makes me think that I should put on my calendar a recurring event which is called clean and lube so that I go through all my firearms and take care of them.

[Apeman88]

I use Eezox... works great. One wierd thing... the smell is a bit adictive... at least for me.

[tikifrei]

I have been trying this stuff

Mil-Comm - Extreme Performance Lubricants

MC2500
I was using Miltech but I switched to this stuff. So far it seems to work very well.

MIL-COMM TW-25B Users and Specifiers

[X-ffdo]

Yeap, I have heard of TW25B. Did not know about MC25, the cleaner.
Might be worth to give it a shot. Who has the hot deal?

[tikifrei]

Originally Posted by X-ffdo

Yeap, I have heard of TW25B. Did not know about MC25, the cleaner.
Might be worth to give it a shot. Who has the hot deal?

I just bought it off their website....I would think you might find it a little cheaper if you shopped around....but sometimes its just easier to get it from the manufacturer.

[ptbarnacle]

Ok, I carry every day and it's almost always a Kimber Ultra CDP in a Milt Sparks VMII IWB. I shoot about once a week and clean the CDP very well afterward and of course lube. I have notice a very light corrosion (rust) on the bushingless barell ring and the rifling on about the 4th day after cleaning.

How often do you clean your primary carry gun? I may try this Militec Oil. I've been using Rem Oil. I have a small bedroom quick gun safe I put it in each night and am thinking about treating the foam- too small for a heat wand, but could use a silica packet.

Looking at treating the holster also. Or I could just sweat less- but it's been so cold that I don't think that's the prob.

Ideas, or should I really plan on cleaning it a few times a week?

[X-ffdo]

I think rem oil is a bit on the thin side. It was supposed to be a good product, I believe was invented around WWI.
I have been using CLP, with good results.
I like the TW25B concept to be used as a grease. The types of weapons I own now are different from the traditional stuff, ( I sold most of them a couple of years ago.) In that most of the guns I have now run on the dry side, excepting Sigs. Glocks just take oil in very specific spots, just 5 drops per weapon. Oil could potentially be a dust and dirt adhesive.
I just have not seen that product in gun shops, etc.

[CCWInstructor]

1989 a off-duty cop pulled his backup while he was being robbed. Berreta Model 21A jammed on the 2nd rounds, no lube. It had not been oiled in over a year.

Took a 12 Gage round to the thigh. He beat the knucklehead to the shot, but then no workie.

[point45]

Its really not critical what kind of lube you use, as long as you keep your gun lubed.

If your worried about rust then either CLP or EZZOX with a regular lube will help greatly with rust prevenetion.

The gun can be dirty as all hell, but as long as its properly lubed it will run.

I used to do all this reading and searching on different gun lubes to find which worked the best untill i read a few books on lubrication.

Now I just use eezox or clp to prevent rust and the left over .5 qt of mobil 1 from changing the oil in the truck. If i want to use a grease I use the mobil 1 wheel bearing grease that i have.

As to the miltec, i have tried it. We sell it at work and got some free sampes of the grease and oil at shot show. It works great, keeps the gun running but it hasent shown it self to work any better then all the other lubricants out there.

The only thing I have against them is their marketing, the stiffening of the metal and bonding properites are BS. Not to say it dosent leave a thin film, but to the extent that they say is doubtfull.