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Old 09-22-2009, 12:40 AM
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What improvements if any can I make to firearms listed on my CA CCW?

I want to add night sites and ambi safty's
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:56 AM
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Once you CA approved gun has been register to you, you can do anything you want as long as the mods are legal.
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:01 AM
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Once you CA approved gun has been register to you, you can do anything you want as long as the mods are legal.
Wouldn't we be in trouble with OCSD by installing a laser on a CCW gun?

Night sights would be fine. An ambi safety would also be fine as long as it was properly installed.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:25 AM
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Wouldn't we be in trouble with OCSD by installing a laser on a CCW gun?

Night sights would be fine. An ambi safety would also be fine as long as it was properly installed.
Why would they get upset over a laser?
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:49 AM
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Why would they get upset over a laser?
Because you are not allowed to have them on your CCW weapon. I believe even the deputies are not allowed to have them, but don't quote me on that.
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Because you are not allowed to have them on your CCW weapon. I believe even the deputies are not allowed to have them, but don't quote me on that.
That's just bizarre.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:23 AM
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m. possessing a weapon altered from its originally approved design, or weapon not listed on the license,
n. possessing any equipment or attachments to a firearm not specifically approved as a part of the license
Doesn't spell it out specifically, but its definitely a no-no
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Doesn't spell it out specifically, but its definitely a no-no
So I cant put night sights on my Glock? hummm... what if I use the same night sights that come from the factory on the factory upgraded glocks? I know it might be finding a loop hole, but I'm sure someone has asked this question..
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So I cant put night sights on my Glock? hummm... what if I use the same night sights that come from the factory on the factory upgraded glocks? I know it might be finding a loop hole, but I'm sure someone has asked this question..
Yes. You can put night sights on it. You can't put a laser.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:25 PM
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From my recent class.... In San Bernardino County, we were told that we could make modifications that would make the gun "safer" or more reliable. So I could add the NY trigger to my glock, but not lighten the trigger pull.

Lasers were OK but not recommended.... although the argument could be made that a laser makes your gun "safer" if it helps to promote accurate shot placement.

I think in my county, they just want us to have a fighting chance in court should it come to that. They don't want you carrying and shooting a hobby gun (race gun, zombie killer etc.) so the closer to factory stock as you can keep it, the less you will give a prosecuting attorney to pick apart.

This is for San Bernardino County.... YMMV
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Yes. You can put night sights on it. You can't put a laser.
It shows what an ignorant twit the sheriff is. If anyone is hit by a missed shot she assumes responsibility.
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It shows what an ignorant twit the sheriff is. If anyone is hit by a missed shot she assumes responsibility.
Which sheriff would you be talking about? Also it's not the sheriff that usually comes up with those rules. If anything I'd say it'd be the training/armory folks that make those recomendations. So.... before you blame her for anything and everything do your homework

Anyways, the no laser rule has been in place for a long time. Also do you know what problem with a laser on a firearm is? It's a nice big fat arrow pointing out where the shooter is as he's trying to take aim...... So big part of it woudl be officer safety.
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Which sheriff would you be talking about? Also it's not the sheriff that usually comes up with those rules. If anything I'd say it'd be the training/armory folks that make those recomendations. So.... before you blame her for anything and everything do your homework
She's the sheriff now so she owns that rule. The fact that the rule exists makes her a twit.

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Anyways, the no laser rule has been in place for a long time. Also do you know what problem with a laser on a firearm is? It's a nice big fat arrow pointing out where the shooter is as he's trying to take aim...... So big part of it woudl be officer safety.
Only if you're having a shootout in the fog.

Anything that makes a first round hit more likely is a plus. Especially when LE shootings have a hit rate of between 14 and 40% depending on the agency. But that's beside the point for a civilian. If a civilian misses and hit's an innocent a lawyer is going to ask "would you have missed with a laser?" and "Why didn't you have a laser sighting system? If the answers are "no" and "the sheriff said no lasers" then the taxpayers are on the hook. It's the rule that puts the taxpayers on the hook because it's so blatantly irresponsible. That makes her a twit in my book.
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Which sheriff would you be talking about? Also it's not the sheriff that usually comes up with those rules. If anything I'd say it'd be the training/armory folks that make those recomendations. So.... before you blame her for anything and everything do your homework

Anyways, the no laser rule has been in place for a long time. Also do you know what problem with a laser on a firearm is? It's a nice big fat arrow pointing out where the shooter is as he's trying to take aim...... So big part of it woudl be officer safety.


A laser doesn't work that way. Are you thinking about a gun mounted flashlight?
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Heh...anything goes in Madera County. My wife has Crimson Trace on her S&W 642. She loves it.
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