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Old 07-08-2009, 03:31 PM
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I just bought my first handgun 2 weeks ago and I'm already having problems with it! I bought a Glock 30SF and I took it to the range and only put 90 rounds through it. I experienced 1 feed jam and when I tried to load the round into the camber and release the slide stop the slide didn't close all of the way. So I was breaking down today to clean it and lubricate it. So I pulled the slide back and pulled the trigger and the slide slid off! I've tried holding the slide releases on either side of the gun up while I fired it and the slide still came off. Does anyone know the reason for this or have they had any similar problems with their glocks?
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:38 PM
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I just bought my first handgun 2 weeks ago and I'm already having problems with it! I bought a Glock 30SF and I took it to the range and only put 90 rounds through it. I experienced 1 feed jam and when I tried to load the round into the camber and release the slide stop the slide didn't close all of the way. So I was breaking down today to clean it and lubricate it. So I pulled the slide back and pulled the trigger and the slide slid off! I've tried holding the slide releases on either side of the gun up while I fired it and the slide still came off. Does anyone know the reason for this or have they had any similar problems with their glocks?
all my Glocks have been solid with NO JAMS or incidents in close to 6000 rounds. I would get that into the store you bought from or if PPT take to a Glock Armorer to look at it IMHO. Good luck
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From what you are saying, it kinda sounds like you might have broken your slide lock spring. This pieces sits underneath the locking block. If there is no "spring" to your take down levers, then this is most likely your culprit.

I haven't heard of one failing on a 30SF, but I have seen it happen a few times on the 27's (40S&W is so abusive!). It's a cheap part but tricky to install if you don't know what you are doing.

Please don't take my word for what may be wrong with your Glock. Without seeing the gun, it's hard to diagnose! Most gunsmiths should be able to diagnose and fix your problem.
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From what you are saying, it kinda sounds like you might have broken your slide lock spring. This pieces sits underneath the locking block. If there is no "spring" to your take down levers, then this is most likely your culprit.

I haven't heard of one failing on a 30SF, but I have seen it happen a few times on the 27's (40S&W is so abusive!). It's a cheap part but tricky to install if you don't know what you are doing.

Please don't take my word for what may be wrong with your Glock. Without seeing the gun, it's hard to diagnose! Most gunsmiths should be able to diagnose and fix your problem.
Most competently spoken... got it in one IMHO....ditto's...+1

We see this on model 23's alot and occasionally on model 22's at our dept... as long as the officer practices his/her reset the gun will usually fire.. it isn't until they don't reset the trigger that the slide will like ... launch...

This might also explain you "Jam" from the other post...
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Buy a Kimber Compact CDP II problem solved!

Sounds like you are well taken care of in previous posts. Sorry could not resist!
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Sounds like you are well taken care of in previous posts. Sorry could not resist!
I hear they are having meetings in the OC area... lots of anonimity and I hear they have good coffee and lots of smokes at those meetings....or is it that they drink coffee and the Kimber smokes....I get so confused sometimes...
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:19 PM
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So after all day off examining my glock and breaking it down I realized what the problem was, when the slide block slipped out of it (apparently a freak accident) I put it back in upside down. Afterwards it didn't feel right so I kept messing with it, turning it around and upside down trying to figure out how to install it. So I took it back out and realized the spring underneath of it had become wedged so it was applying no pressure to the slide block. So to make a long story short, I forced the spring too far down and it became stuck... But thank you to everyone that tried to help.
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So after all day off examining my glock and breaking it down I realized what the problem was, when the slide block slipped out of it (apparently a freak accident) I put it back in upside down. Afterwards it didn't feel right so I kept messing with it, turning it around and upside down trying to figure out how to install it. So I took it back out and realized the spring underneath of it had become wedged so it was applying no pressure to the slide block. So to make a long story short, I forced the spring too far down and it became stuck... But thank you to everyone that tried to help.
Glad to hear you got it fixed!
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:20 PM
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Default Slide lock spring is too long

So after my slide fell off doing another dry fire I did a little more reading and found out that this is not an uncommon problem. Apparently the slide spring is too long and becomes stuck when you pull the slide block down to field strip the gun. I'm almost tempted to file down the spring myself but that would void my warranty and I kinda just want glock to make it right. I'm kinda pissed off that the first new glock I buy isn't impeccable. Not to mention it's probably gonna be a couple of weeks before I have a working glock!
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Please keep us posted. I have a Glock 30 and have never had a problem with it. I've only had it a few months, and have only shot maybe 300 rounds through it. I do carry it since I like the .45, and I'm a bit concerned to read the slides are falling off! I have pumped many, many more rounds through my 23 and have never had a problem with it! And, it's an older Glock. I purchased it when the 22's and 23's first came out, in fact .40 S&W was relatively a new caliber as well, which was what attracted me to get one in the first place!
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So after all day off examining my glock and breaking it down I realized what the problem was, when the slide block slipped out of it (apparently a freak accident) I put it back in upside down. Afterwards it didn't feel right so I kept messing with it, turning it around and upside down trying to figure out how to install it. So I took it back out and realized the spring underneath of it had become wedged so it was applying no pressure to the slide block. So to make a long story short, I forced the spring too far down and it became stuck... But thank you to everyone that tried to help.
cool nice job on the self diagnosis. Viva la Glock! Don't listen to these 1911-files for they do not know what they speak. I have jammed 1911's but NEVER jammed my Glocks! that said I do plan on getting a Kimber just cause they are so darn cool and recoil is awesome on them. For fun KIMBER for Self Defense - GLOCK! In my not so humble opinion
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Originally Posted by Libertarian: I carry a gun because I can't conceal a cop.

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag.... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language.... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:44 PM
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Please keep us posted. I have a Glock 30 and have never had a problem with it. I've only had it a few months, and have only shot maybe 300 rounds through it. I do carry it since I like the .45, and I'm a bit concerned to read the slides are falling off! I have pumped many, many more rounds through my 23 and have never had a problem with it! And, it's an older Glock. I purchased it when the 22's and 23's first came out, in fact .40 S&W was relatively a new caliber as well, which was what attracted me to get one in the first place!
I am sure Glock will stand behind it. have you contacted the shop you bought it at?
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Originally Posted by Libertarian: I carry a gun because I can't conceal a cop.

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
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So after all day off examining my glock and breaking it down I realized what the problem was, when the slide block slipped out of it (apparently a freak accident) I put it back in upside down. Afterwards it didn't feel right so I kept messing with it, turning it around and upside down trying to figure out how to install it. So I took it back out and realized the spring underneath of it had become wedged so it was applying no pressure to the slide block. So to make a long story short, I forced the spring too far down and it became stuck... But thank you to everyone that tried to help.
Umm... You sure you weren't messing with it? I've never seen a slide lock lever 'slip out' by accident if the spring wasn't broken and hadn't been messed with. Strange things can happen, I suppose...

In any case, I'd take it to a Glock armorer or the store you bought it; it should be easy to get back into fighting shape.
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I have to confess to the fact that I have never heard of this before....
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There were a series of slide lock springs for the model 23 guns that had issues... the recoil spring abraids the s.l.s. and causes it to thin out and then breaking ... I assume that the op was, as he has indicated... tinkering and got the lock in backwards which will cause problems... this is a pretty foolproof device ...except when it itsn't....
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