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Old 06-10-2009, 08:23 PM
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A golf buddy of mine said he saw a .410 pistol while in Europe. He alleges that it is not a cut-down shotgun but real gen-u-wine pistol. Thoughts / Comments?

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I know Taurus has the judge, and Thompson Contender has a single shot.

My guess is it's a barrel less than the 18.5" or whatever is the shortest legal shotgun here in Ca. Probably a no-go in Ca.
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the judge is not certified for sale in Calif per the DOJ website, http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp

a man I worked for in the 60's had a 410 pistol, it was about 10" long and very old back then, do not remember the manufacturer
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Nothing in .410 with less than a XX" (i can't remember, but i think the minimum length is 18") is legal in CA.

I believe American Arms made one in a derringer too... Lots of things out there for 410. Several will alternately chamber the .45 LC.
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A golf buddy of mine said he saw a .410 pistol while in Europe. He alleges that it is not a cut-down shotgun but real gen-u-wine pistol. Thoughts / Comments?

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Years ago the TC contender had a 45 colt handgun barrel that was also chambered for a 410 shotshell ,I had a friend who purchased a few of them then the state of calif ruled they weren't legal and banned them.Although not legal in Calif they were in other states.
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If the barrel is around 10 inches, it might be an H and R Handygun.
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Bond Arms Derringers come in 45 Long Colt and will shoot 410s. But you can't get them here. I would carry a Judge if they were legal.
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Was watching Shooting Gallery last nite and Michael Bane had a 2-barrell Derringer (Can't for the life of me think of the manufacturer mow...GRRRRR) it was a GREAT design, instead of Top break, it was bottom break...REALLY cool, but of course, NOT California legal...

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Was watching Shooting Gallery last nite and Michael Bane had a 2-barrell Derringer (Can't for the life of me think of the manufacturer mow...GRRRRR) it was a GREAT design, instead of Top break, it was bottom break...REALLY cool, but of course, NOT California legal...
The Blue Press has a Bond Arms Snake Slayer in 45 Colt & .410 shotshell (not available in Calif or Mass) it can be changed to 14 other barrels in calibers fron .22 long rifle to .45 colt made in Texas by Texans Bond Arms Welcome 817-573-4445 Granbury,TX
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I know Taurus has the judge, and Thompson Contender has a single shot.

My guess is it's a barrel less than the 18.5" or whatever is the shortest legal shotgun here in Ca. Probably a no-go in Ca.
Cabela's sells a reproduction of the LE MAT muzzle loading Revolver with 9 shots of 44 cal & a 20g grape shot barrel.
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There are also some old "bicycle pistols" ... basically C&R guns around...
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Yet you can have snakeshot in your handgun...
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Yet you can have snakeshot in your handgun...
IAmASensFan has a point. If .410 is a caliber and not a gauge, what makes this a shotgun round? Multiple projectiles?, would that make a shotgun a rifle when shooting slugs?
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IAmASensFan has a point. If .410 is a caliber and not a gauge, what makes this a shotgun round? Multiple projectiles?, would that make a shotgun a rifle when shooting slugs?
Federal law defines that. 410 is a shotgun guage. 41 is a caliber.
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