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Old 07-15-2008, 10:31 AM
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Why is the G25 and G28 not available to the general public? I remeber being told by a Glock rep once that the .380 is considered a military round and cannot be sold to lowly civilians. Anyone know why they are not sold here in the USA? (Maybe its just california )
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:45 AM
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The Glock 25 has a .380 caliber cartridge. It is a slightly reduced size of a full-size handgun. was introduced at the IWA Show in Germany a few years back and is the same size as the more powerful GLOCK models 19, 23 and 32.



Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28. These pistols were developed for those countries that forbid the civilian possession of a handgun chambered in a common military caliber.

The Glock 28 has a .380 caliber cartridge. It is a highly concealable, personal defense handgun. It is the same size and format as the GLOCK models 26, 27 and 33.



Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28. These pistols were developed for those countries that forbid the civilian possession of a handgun chambered in a common military caliber.



The big difference with both pistols and the other GLOCKs is that both pistols are blowback operated.

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Old 07-15-2008, 11:36 AM
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It's all about the "Import Points". The G25 and G28 don't have enough points to qualify for importation for sale to the public.
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It's all about the "Import Points". The G25 and G28 don't have enough points to qualify for importation for sale to the public.
That is the bottom line.

I can't figure out why someone would want one. Same size as the 9MM and 40S&W Glocks. With a more expensive and less powerful round. What is the point?
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what is an "import point"?
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Here you go.

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Many of the Glock's parts and sometimes the whole gun are dictated or limited by the BATF's system of "import points". To qualify for import a pistol must score 75 points based on the following system:

Characteristic Points
Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
Forged steel frame 15
Forged HTS alloy frame 20
Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
.22 short and .25 auto 0
.22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
9mm parabellum and over 10
Locked breech mechanism 5
Loaded chamber indicator 5
Grip safety 3
Magazine safety 5
Firing pin block or lock 10
External hammer 2
Double action 10
Drift adjustable target sight 5
Click adjustable target sight 10
Target grips 5
Target trigger 2

For example, here is how the G17 scores: Length (7.28") 5
Weight (24.79oz) 25
Caliber (9mm) 10
Locked breech 5
Firing pin block 10
Double action 10
Target sight 10
Target grips 5
Total 80

Here is how the Glock 26 scores: Length (6.29") 1
Weight (21.87oz) 22
Caliber (9mm) 10
Locked breech 5
Firing pin block 10
Double action 10
Target sight 10
Target grips 5
Target trigger 2
Total 75

Changes and features made to Glocks to comply with the BATF rules:
- all models are imported with a cheap click-adjustable rear sight that is replaced at the factory with the stock sight
- target (grooved) trigger added to compacts & subcompacts
- target grips added to all models (required for the subcompacts)
- due to their caliber, .380 autos (G25 & G28) do not score enough points to be imported
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