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Old 07-12-2008, 11:39 AM
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I have a general question (may vary by county) but in general are there any professions which are more likely to be granted CCWs ? and if so within that profession you still need your own unique GC? sorry if this has been discussed before.

I already asked CCWInstructor a couple of questions which he kindly answered but would like to understand in general how things work. I know we dont discuss specific GC on this forum but I thought maybe we can discuss the process in general (for newbies like myself who might not know as much as the senior folks ) otherwise I will drive CCW inst crazy by all my questions

I have already read through all the new and old threads but am still confused

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Old 07-12-2008, 11:40 AM
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:55 AM
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Here is the Attorney General's definition of Good Cause from 1977:

OPINION NO. CR. 77/30 I.L. 'the issuing authority must determine whether the threat to the applicant (or other causal situation) is as real as the applicant asserts (e.g., is there a clear and present danger to the applicant, his spouse, his family or his employees)? Finally, if the danger is manifest, the authority should determine whether that danger cannot be significantly alleviated by alternative means of security and whether in fact can be lawfully mitigated by the applicant's obtaining a concealed weapon license.'
This decision was rendered By Attorney General Evelle J. Younger, August 23, 1977.


There is enough wiggle room in there to do anything from "personal protection" to "every morning the applicant is violently attacked and they can prove it will continue to happen. Please provide name(s) of attackers and exact time and location of anticipated attack and why the attack cannot be avoided." What it comes down to is - "What makes you more likely to be attacked than any other person?" If there is something in your profession or business, or personal life, that causes such an unavoidable dangerous situation, and having a CCW would mitigate that danger, then that is probably going to be your Good Cause. That doesn't mean that it will be adequate for the issuing authority. This is why Good Cause is specific to an individual.
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The rule of thumb is this. What is it about you that puts your safety more at risk then others? It could be your professon, your personal life, or some other reason. That reason is your Good Cause.

While a persons "Good Cause" should be unique that person, I'm sure people using similar occupations (if occupation is the reason) will articulate a very similar GC. Still, it must come from you and cannot be "borrowed" from the others who have used a similar GC.

There are no "cookie cutter" Good Cause statements.... and what we must avoid is flooding the process with dozen of GC's all sounding exactly the same.

I hope that makes a little sense...

Keep working with CCWI... hes' the best, knows more about the process then anyone else, and has helped most of us along the way... I know's he's a little busy right now, but give him some time, and I'm sure you'll find he's worth the wait

Good luck.
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Here is the Attorney General's definition of Good Cause from 1977:

OPINION NO. CR. 77/30 I.L. 'the issuing authority must determine whether the threat to the applicant (or other causal situation) is as real as the applicant asserts (e.g., is there a clear and present danger to the applicant, his spouse, his family or his employees)? Finally, if the danger is manifest, the authority should determine whether that danger cannot be significantly alleviated by alternative means of security and whether in fact can be lawfully mitigated by the applicant's obtaining a concealed weapon license.'
This decision was rendered By Attorney General Evelle J. Younger, August 23, 1977.


There is enough wiggle room in there to do anything from "personal protection" to "every morning the applicant is violently attacked and they can prove it will continue to happen. Please provide name(s) of attackers and exact time and location of anticipated attack and why the attack cannot be avoided." What it comes down to is - "What makes you more likely to be attacked than any other person?" If there is something in your profession or business, or personal life, that causes such an unavoidable dangerous situation, and having a CCW would mitigate that danger, then that is probably going to be your Good Cause. That doesn't mean that it will be adequate for the issuing authority. This is why Good Cause is specific to an individual.

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The rule of thumb is this. What is it about you that puts your safety more at risk then others? It could be your professon, your personal life, or some other reason. That reason is your Good Cause.

While a persons "Good Cause" should be unique that person, I'm sure people using similar occupations (if occupation is the reason) will articulate a very similar GC. Still, it must come from you and cannot be "borrowed" from the others who have used a similar GC.

There are no "cookie cutter" Good Cause statements.... and what we must avoid is flooding the process with dozen of GC's all sounding exactly the same.

I hope that makes a little sense...

Keep working with CCWI... hes' the best, knows more about the process then anyone else, and has helped most of us along the way... I know's he's a little busy right now, but give him some time, and I'm sure you'll find he's worth the wait

Good luck.
actually CCWI has been great so far ,
thanks for replying, with each reply I'm learning something new. I guess I thought let me start a general discussion and leave specific questions for the Chief CCWI

There are no "cookie cutter" Good Cause statements--> is there a manual for dummies
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There is a list of example GC floating around, but for a few examples,,,,,

Doctor,,,, carrying class III drugs

Jeweler,,,, briefcase full of diamonds

Like mentioned above, each persons GC is a private necessity and needs to be articulated as such. CCWI will look it over to offer the best verbatim to help make it look as good as possible.

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No profession anywhere in the state is guaranteed. Yes those that put you at greater risk do get approved a lot more.

Number one issued reason in the state. Large amounts of cash for a legitimate business reason.
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No profession anywhere in the state is guaranteed. Yes those that put you at greater risk do get approved a lot more.

Number one issued reason in the state. Large amounts of cash for a legitimate business reason.
I want me some large amounts of cash
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