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Old 05-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default A solution for Los Angeles County? 2010?

http://www.meredithforsheriff.com/page/ccw.pdf

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"As Sheriff of Los Angeles County, my guidelines for the issuance of the CCW
(Carry Concealed Weapon) permit will be much the same as the Orange County
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:23 AM
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What do we know about this guy, does he stand a chance. We like his policy on CCW. Gives hope to our LA friends.
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:01 AM
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I want my sheriff to switch to OC CCW ruling!
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:09 AM
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He's bald, I'd vote for him!

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Old 05-01-2007, 11:24 AM
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I want my sheriff to switch to OC CCW ruling!
You and me both!
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sounds like someone we should support?
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:57 AM
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This PDF states that he will have similar guidelines to what OC has. Guess what. LA County already has similar guidelines to what OC has because it part of the Penal Code, but Sheriff Baca just doesn't issue them.

Nowhere in that PDF did it state that he would issue them like Sheriff Corona does. The question isn't "should the people LA vote for him?", the question is "Will he issue CCW permits like Sheriff Corona?"
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This PDF states that he will have similar guidelines to what OC has. Guess what. LA County already has similar guidelines to what OC has because it part of the Penal Code, but Sheriff Baca just doesn't issue them.

Nowhere in that PDF did it state that he would issue them like Sheriff Corona does. The question isn't "should the people LA vote for him?", the question is "Will he issue CCW permits like Sheriff Corona?"
And this is why the people in LA who want CCW need to contact him and seek a clarification of his position. If he is solidly in favor of CCW then he needs/deserves their support.
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I'd love for a Sheriff like that (Carona) to buck the system up here...


But it won't likely happen...
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LA people do need to sheck with him and call him on it.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:31 PM
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"sheck"?

"Let's sheck some sheckles, eh?"

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Sent just now:

"Dear Lt. Meredith:

I have seen your stance per your website Position Paper as to CCW in LA County.

However, in looking over what you state in that website, you state nothing that is not already a requirement of issuing agencies. Baca has the same requirements set before him per the Penal Code. What will be different about your "issuing" practices that distinguishes you from the restrictive (and possibly illegal) practices of Sheriff Baca?

You state a position similar to Orange County. OC is getting closer and closer to be "Shall Issue" in comparison to the rest of the state, and the residents there attribute this to an understanding Sheriff in regards to the good cause statements.

Thank you in advance for any time you may take in regard to this inquiry. Best wishes for a successful campaign.

OCRancher"
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:16 AM
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LOL... did you include Guns and Sushi's quote too?
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:49 PM
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It would seem to me that we as gun owners should take what we can get for now but continue pushing hard toward right to carry. Regardless of my past professional career in law enforcement, I firmly believe that once a cop gets to management level in law enforcement, he or she automatically degrades to the level of a politician which means that rhetoric is full of euphamisms to sway those that he or she depends on to further their career goals or agenda. We need to saturate our representatives emails with our concerns and constantly phone their respective offices and express our concerns. I for one have written on a number of occasions to my chain of representatives and have visited those offices that are nearby to continue to express my concerns about Californias draconian firearms laws and I will continue to contact them. I personally would like to see every gun owner do this and keep the heat on. With the hundreds of individuals on this website, I have no doubt that we can rally every gun owner in California to do this, even if it's just one phonecall to his or her city hall.
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Old 05-07-2007, 02:53 PM
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Meredith responded!

"Mr. OCRancher,



I truly understand and support the right to bear arms as guaranteed by the constitution of the United States.



As for the CCW issue, my position paper outlines my requirements for training, proficiency and tactical considerations so that any CCW bearer will not put themselves in a position of criminal/civil liability or imperil their safety when challenged by a police officer.



Having worked undercover I know how dicey a situation can become when you are challenged by a uniformed officer who does not know you and you are armed.



My belief is that responsible and trained citizens should be entitled to a permit. In situations like Virginia Tech, the San Yisdro McDonald's massacre etc., had a trained citizen been in there with a CCW and their firearm it is likely less lives would have been lost.



However, I do have to balance fiscal responsibility and the logistics in issuing CCWs.



As it would be impossible to process CCWs in a timely manner for every person in the county who is entitled to have one without a significant drain on personnel and funds to complete the process.



It is like baby steps. First we establish a good and fair guideline that provides CCWs to the public in manner that is manageable to prevent liability to the county.



In summation I support the concept of CCW.



Don Meredith
626-334-7005"

Sounds like a move in the right direction. LA County people care to chime in here?
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