Gunsmithing - Now Illegal in California?

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by AF_int1n0

So your saying that the SIS, as in the SIS advertised as "The gun of LAPD SIS"
isn't CAL legal??

That would be funny if it wasn't so stupid!!

the safe gun list aside why would that be stupid? IIRC Kimber designed the firearm around LAPD SWAT requirements and then their marketing department labeled it for what it was. Anyways I see it as amusing rather then stupid that what is safe for LAPD is not safe for us

[AuburnHunter]

Originally Posted by rycerz

the safe gun list aside why would that be stupid? IIRC Kimber designed the firearm around LAPD SWAT requirements and then their marketing department labeled it for what it was. Anyways I see it as amusing rather then stupid that what is safe for LAPD is not safe for us

I think that was more of a comment on California Gun Laws than it was on Kimber's marketing.

It is pretty stupid that a pistol designed for use by LAPD SIS is not "safe" for us normal folk. (from a law stand point, not a Kimber stand point)

[AMS MIKE]

Originally Posted by AuburnHunter

I think that was more of a comment on California Gun Laws than it was on Kimber's marketing.

It is pretty stupid that a pistol designed for use by LAPD SIS is not "safe" for us normal folk. (from a law stand point, not a Kimber stand point)

I thought it was supposed to be approved when I first saw it. Its not going to happen. A lot more discussion on this thread below.

http://www.calccw.com/Forums/carry-g...able-soon.html

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by Ciderbite

I recently ahd some work done on a firearm to improve feeding of ammunition (new barrel and polished ramp). A LEO saw the work and commented that any work done on a firearm in california alters the gun and causes it to fall off the approved list of firearms. I really didn't know how to respond so I said nothing and left the establishment. Any thoughts on how to respond in the future of such a claim?

Changing barrels, springs and polishing feed ramps is "Normal Maintenance". If this guy doesn't understand that, then he has no business around being around firearms.

[WKC]

Originally Posted by AMS MIKE

I thought it was supposed to be approved when I first saw it. Its not going to happen. A lot more discussion on this thread below.

http://www.calccw.com/Forums/carry-g...able-soon.html

Bottom line is that the O-Frames on the list are the only ones available to us from now on. Any new guns submitted for testing must have the mag disconnect in addition to the other useless features they require.

[libertarian]

Not to mention, I don't think the state has OK'd any loaded chamber indicator since that became a requirement, have they? That effectively bans new guns from the CA market anyway, Microstamping be damned.

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by libertarian

Not to mention, I don't think the state has OK'd any loaded chamber indicator since that became a requirement, have they? That effectively bans new guns from the CA market anyway, Microstamping be damned.

huh? loaded chamber indicator has been in effect for a while: my Kimber has a little peep hole on top of the chamber that I look through to see a tail end of a casing. It's not a new feature

XD's have a little piece that sticks up that indicates that the chamber is loaded.

[BonoVox]

Originally Posted by libertarian

Not to mention, I don't think the state has OK'd any loaded chamber indicator since that became a requirement, have they? That effectively bans new guns from the CA market anyway, Microstamping be damned.

S&W Semi Auto M&P's? They have a loaded chamber indicator and are shipped to California with mag disconnect and I think they hit California after the requirement?

[WKC]

Originally Posted by libertarian

Not to mention, I don't think the state has OK'd any loaded chamber indicator since that became a requirement, have they? That effectively bans new guns from the CA market anyway, Microstamping be damned.

None of the so-called safety requirements that the legislation has forced on us really make the guns any safer. They have just the opposite effect. Now we have un-educated gun owners/handlers who thinks that all guns have mag disconnectors and it is ok to disregard basic safety rules when handling them. If they really want to have an impact and reduce gun related accidents, they would focus on education like a lot of the other programs the force our kids to take in school. Education is what will reduce accidents.

It use to be refereed to as the "Safe Gun" list. Now it is called the list of "Approved Guns" for sale in California. They passed the legislation by lying to the masses about their goal to reduce gun accidents. Now... The seduction is over, the rape has begun.

[PHM]

Originally Posted by Ciderbite

I recently ahd some work done on a firearm to improve feeding of ammunition (new barrel and polished ramp). A LEO saw the work and commented that any work done on a firearm in california alters the gun and causes it to fall off the approved list of firearms. I really didn't know how to respond so I said nothing and left the establishment. Any thoughts on how to respond in the future of such a claim?

Must have been the same LEO from San Francisco PD that Python2 was talking to at his shooting match about them not honoring a CCW from another county.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by rycerz

huh? loaded chamber indicator has been in effect for a while: my Kimber has a little peep hole on top of the chamber that I look through to see a tail end of a casing. It's not a new feature

XD's have a little piece that sticks up that indicates that the chamber is loaded.

All my semi-autos have a loaded chamber indicator. It's called a press check.

[Poogsdad]

Originally Posted by The Gimper

All my semi-autos have a loaded chamber indicator. It's called a press check.

I got that feature on both of my Kimbers also!!!

Thanks,

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by The Gimper

All my semi-autos have a loaded chamber indicator. It's called a press check.

NEVER Use press check. people press the trigger to check. Use Chamber check.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

NEVER Use press check. people press the trigger to check. Use Chamber check.

OK. That's the only thing I have heard it called. But I will correct that now.

[Brian1979]

Its called press check around these parts and every where else I have read. I dont pull the trigger to check and never heard of it called that.

Pull on the slide over the recoil plug to draw back the slide and peak inside to me thats a press check not a pull the trigger check.