CCW & Kids

[PirateQueen]

Originally Posted by Apeman88

Maybe I'm overly cautious... but kids are kids and do say stupid things. And yes... I "fear" the stupid things they might say in public may draw un-necessary attention from crowds or LEO.

Talking about stupid things kids say... when my oldest was around 2 or 3... she over hear me say bullsh1t around the house when I heard BS from my wife. One day in a store, she wanted to buy a toy and I told her a white lie of why she couldn't have it... and she responded with "bullsh1t".

hehe.... this is what I'm talking about... sometimes it's best to leave them in the dark until they can tell right from wrong.

That's the reason we haven't told ours, they would blurt it out at the most inappropriate time.

[PirateQueen]

Originally Posted by Apeman88

Well.. if you put it that way... Fear IS the biggest issue here... we carry becuase we "fear" harm will come to us. Right? But at the same time we minimize that fear by not going into a dark alley at night... right? Same logic here. I carry but becuase the society today cannot accept people carrying guns... you need to "conceal" your weapon... if not... open carry would be legal. And part of concealing your weapon is that the fact you are carrying is based on a "need to know." But trusting my 3 year old when he still can't diferrentiate right from wrong, girls and boys and what can be said and not said in public, you are no longer "concealing" your weapon to your best ability.

I'm not afraid CCW or guns becoming the norm... in fact, I welcome it. This is part of the reason I'm on this site to help people interested and fully support Greg in his mission to increase CCW in OC. But before guns or CCW become the norm (and I doubt it will ever be in CA)... in order to live and socialize with the general public, I need to conceal my weapon to the best of my ability and at least for me...that means people with big mouth can't know I'm carrying. Unfortunately, my 3 year old is, sub-conciously, a big mouth right now.

When I need to pull my weapon... the S has HTF for me and at that moment, I would be concerned about saving the lifes of my family more so than concealment of my weapon.

As for how ugly it will get if my kid yells out I have a gun in public in front of cops... I think it would be safe to assume that before I have a chance to explain I'm legally armed and show the officers my permit... I would be starring down the business end of a few muzzles, get thrown to the ground and cuffed. If I can prevent this by delaying my CCW status to my 3 year old until he's mature enough to keep secrets... why shouldn't I? Of course... as you say... this is a hypothetical situation... and if so... the need to carry and use a gun for SD is also hypothetical since I believe the chances of my 3 year old sub-conciously saying I'm armed while in public is greater than the need to draw and use my weapon.

Anyway... all these are simply my opioion directly linked or observed with my 3 year old. Every kid is different... in fact... my girls at 3 year old was more mature than my boy now at 3 year old. And I really don't make judgement based on age...it's based on maturity. I've seen some 10 or 12 year old boys at my girls school that I would never trust them with a gun even at a range.

Just my 2 cent. Hope everyone enjoys my opioion.


Apeman

I agree it should be when the adult feels the child is ready and able to handle the responsibility as you said and not solely based on age.

[THaves]

I agree with Sushi, I see no need to tell my kids. Only the wife and all the forum members ( oh and the CHP offier who stopped me last week) know I carry. I have told no one else.

[Apeman88]

Originally Posted by PirateQueen

I think your exactly right, it's keeping kids away from guns and the lack of training that is getting our kids in trouble. I think we need to start demystifying and educating our kids. They have drug free week at school what's wrong with having a gun safe week?

At my girl's school... part of the drug free week program, they were taught about gun safety . OCSD would have a few units and one year had a heli land on school playground. I was not at any of the gun safety days but from I hear from my kids... they were shown a few different guns to show what a gun looks like and told if they find a gun to NEVER touch it and to report it immediately to an adult nearby. At first, I thought the school was gonna teach them about how to handle a gun safely... I thought... cool!... but guess not. Guess in today's society... you really can't teach real gun safety in a school enviroment... too many parent would probabily flip at the idea of their kids being taught guns in school.