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Old 04-04-2007, 11:15 AM
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How gun control trades life for death

Posted: April 4, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

(http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=55026)

By Bob Allen




His name is Charles.

Her name was Clara.

Was. Past tense.

The first and last time Charles saw Clara alive, she was being dragged by her hair through the CNN Center in Atlanta. Clara's tormentor ordered Charles out of the way, and instead of standing his ground to defend an obviously distressed woman, he obeyed the thug's order and let them pass.

Charles' choice was to go in search of a guard instead of personally coming to the woman's aid, and the tragic result is that Clara is now dead.
Going to find "help" turned out to be no help at all.

Could Charles have saved Clara? It's possible he could not. Perhaps Charles would have also been a victim. We can never be sure.

What we do know is that Charles obeyed a thug – refused to defend the defenseless – and two people are now dead.

What would you have done?

What would I have done?

There was a time when a majority of American men would almost surely have come to Clara's aid. They believed in an ethic that said, "Rescue those who are being taken away to death; hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter." (Proverbs 24:11)

It was a day when men, recognizing the reality of evil, carried weapons that enabled them to stand in the gap for those being unjustly tormented and threatened. Virtually any man on the street could come to the aid of a victim like Clara.

That was then; this is now.

Charles is probably a good, law-abiding citizen of modern America. Therefore he knows all too well he cannot carry a weapon to defend people like Clara without asking permission of the government.

Long past are the days of George Tucker, a man wounded twice in America's Revolutionary War, who wrote: The right of self-defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever … the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."

Or again, William Rawle, appointed as a U.S. attorney by President George Washington: "No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction, be conceived to give the Congress a power to disarm the people. A flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if, in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either [state or federal government] should attempt it, [the Second] Amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."

Most Americans today probably couldn't even imagine living when the laws in Virginia made men subject to prosecution for NOT carrying their weapons with them at all times, even (gasp!) being specifically mandated to bring them to church!

Yes, we're a long way from those days, and I wonder if perhaps we've so lost the ability to govern ourselves that we deserve to be helpless in the face of evil.

Yet, as soon as I write that, I come back to a simple truth: Clara didn't deserve to die. She had a perfect right to expect someone – anyone – with a sense of decency and courage to come to her aid in time of need.
Charles did not. No one else did.

We don't have to guess what George Tucker, William Rawle and the other Founding Fathers would say about our "gun control" laws that restrain only the law-abiding.

All we have to do is read their writings.
And perhaps ponder this horrible truth: Clara is dead.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:59 AM
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Its really sad.

And its sick that the anti-gun crowd will twist this to bolster thier cause. Every person that dies at the hand of a scum like this helps them, that is truely sad.

"Turner Broadcasting sent messages to employees saying free confidential counseling would be made available. The company made a counselor available Tuesday and planned to do so again Wednesday.

None of us expects something like this to be part of our work day," Phil Kent, chairman and CEO of Turner Broadcasting, said in a statement to employees.

"Turner Security personnel perform difficult, at times dangerous duty on our behalf. And Turner employees are vigilant in doing their part to ensure the safety of our work environment. Today's events are a sobering reminder of the need to be aware, informed and above all, safe."
CNN.com

You can be aware, informed and safe all you want, but if you do not have a weapon you have no options in these situations.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:01 PM
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I read the article. If Charles was armed was he justified in shooting? Point 2...would you?

Sounded like to me he did not have enough time either way to get a read on the whole situation.
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Having never been in that situation, I can only speculate. I think defending this helpless person would be justified, the BG was clearly a BG and not LEO...

I think I would, I have spent years in public service demonstrating that I will put myself at risk for the benefit of another, I don't think that it would stop now. It's not about being a hero, but that was someones daugher/child/friend/sister/etc - think like a sheepdog...

Infact, now armed, I think that I would engage - tactically - behind cover, anything to keep him from killing her. How could I not?

Don't know - I'd be interested in others' take on the matter thats for sure.
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Interesting topic roger.
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Chalkk up one more real life event that argues for CCW. Not directly California related, but the just the same.
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