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02-05-2010, 10:31 AM
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Is Starbucks next? Anyone hear about this?
Anyone hear about this? I found this posted on Kahr Talk. Apparently, there is an anti gun group putting pressure on Starbucks to ban guns on their property. I might sign this petition and write a separate email. PEET's isn't in my neighborhood but if I had to give up Starbucks (gulp) that would hurt
 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/sta...edom-of-choice
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02-05-2010, 10:59 AM
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"Let your gun be your constant companion on all your walks." Jefferson "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Lama "Gun bans don't disarm criminals, gun bans attract them." Walter Mondale, VP "Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing." Sammy "The Bull" Gravano "A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." Lenin, Creator of USSR "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms" Hitler "To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason, Father of the Bill of Rights "I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor." Gandhi The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government." Hubert H Humphrey, VP "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life." John F Kennedy "Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state." Heinrich Himmler, Head of Nazi SS "Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy." George Orwell "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in their government." Jefferson "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." Luke 22:36
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02-05-2010, 01:21 PM
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I don't do Starbuks often, but if they apenly stand by 2a rights, in the face of these p&$$y little brady idiots I will start going there. we should all google starbuks and e-mail them to let them know their support of the 2a will be rewarded.
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02-05-2010, 01:30 PM
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02-05-2010, 01:40 PM
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 BURN THAT POT! 
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02-05-2010, 02:44 PM
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Coffee in general? EWWWW
BURN THAT POT! LOL
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02-05-2010, 07:30 PM
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All you Peet's customers need to go over to Starbucks.
 Starbucks is telling the Brady bunch to pound sand.  I don't even drink coffee, but THAT'S a company I can stand behind and patronize. I hear they have great cocoa. Guess I will find out now.
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02-05-2010, 10:15 PM
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Starbucks ban firearms no way. I think my entire dept goes daily. That would be a serious dent in sales.
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02-06-2010, 12:09 AM
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Tom98915 NRA Member Will Rogers said, "There's three kinds of people. There's them that can learn from others, There's them that can learn from books, And there's them that has to whiz on the electric fence for themselves." I prefer to be one of the first two kind and to learn from others' mistakes. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well armed lamb."
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02-06-2010, 08:27 AM
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Its no doubt that the pressure to ban guns at these coffee houses is being spurred on by the Open Carry folks showing up in numbers to make a visible demonstration of their 2A rights.
I know this is NOT an open carry forum but is it fair to ask if anyone else is concerned that Open Carry demonstrations will have the unintended consequence of helping the Gun Control lobby to achieve laws that effect CCW laws? I am very worried that this is already happening.
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02-06-2010, 10:39 AM
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Starbucks Support
I am not a big fan of the open carry movement either because I am afraid it could work against the right to carry BUT the fact that Starbucks officially made a decision to honor open carry laws is huge! They are coming under heavy fire for this and I think they need to be supported. I know I will be contacting them to let them know I appreciate their decision to not be bullied by the Brady Camp.
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02-06-2010, 11:00 AM
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I just want to point out that these places, in their press releases, specified no open carry. They never addressed CCW's.
As much as I may agree or disagree with a policy (and they really have to be taken on a case by case basis), it IS the right of the owner of the establishment to allow or not allow firearms. It is also my right to decide whether or not to give that company my cash. Personally, I think walking around with an unloaded gun holstered for the world to see isn't a terribly bright idea. This goes back to the days when I was in the Canadian Military and with UNFICYP, and we had to keep the only 20 round mag we had for our C7 inside our pocket, and not in the mag well. You are clearly at a tactical disadvantage. As CCWI states (and I'm paraphrasing), an unloaded gun is nothing more than a paperweight, and I agree.
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02-06-2010, 11:54 AM
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A unload gun is a paper weight and a police report of a crime is paper. The paper weight can become a usable weapon in a couple seconds. I will take the paper weight.
I do appreciate Starbucks on the stance on that if it is not illegal then they are OK with the situation. jerry
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