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Old 11-06-2009, 06:21 AM
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I was thinking about this the other day. I remember the SBC sheriff deputy stated during our CCW class that if pulled over by law enforcement it is a requirement you enforce the officer that you have a permit to carry and are armed prior to doing any motion to get your wallet/insurance.

What about if you are a passenger? Are you obligated to tell the officer at that point.

I remember him mentioning once you are the subject of his discussion you should let him know. eg. I remember him saying that if you are on the street and go up to an officer to ask for directions you don't need to tell him

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:01 AM
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I was thinking about this the other day. I remember the SBC sheriff deputy stated during our CCW class that if pulled over by law enforcement it is a requirement you enforce the officer that you have a permit to carry and are armed prior to doing any motion to get your wallet/insurance.

What about if you are a passenger? Are you obligated to tell the officer at that point.

I remember him mentioning once you are the subject of his discussion you should let him know. eg. I remember him saying that if you are on the street and go up to an officer to ask for directions you don't need to tell him
IMO - If you are asked for ID and you are carrying you should advise the LEO of your CCW status.
My suggestion is you keep your ID (& CCW) completely away from your weapon. This way you can obtain and hand the LEO your DL and CCW without going near your weapon. This works well whether you choose to advise verbally before obtaining your DL & CCW or if you hand the LEO both licenses and let them take it from there.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:08 AM
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I was thinking about this the other day. I remember the SBC sheriff deputy stated during our CCW class that if pulled over by law enforcement it is a requirement you enforce the officer that you have a permit to carry and are armed prior to doing any motion to get your wallet/insurance.

What about if you are a passenger? Are you obligated to tell the officer at that point.

I remember him mentioning once you are the subject of his discussion you should let him know. eg. I remember him saying that if you are on the street and go up to an officer to ask for directions you don't need to tell him

The requirement you speak of is simply a county policy and condition of issuance of your CCW. For example here in Fresno there is no such requirement and since it is not law we are under no obligation to tell the LEO unless directly asked.
That is not to say you should not tell the LEO anyway but the choice is ours to make. If I were a passenger and this was a simple traffic violation stop and there was little to no interaction with the LEO then I probably would not tell him/her.
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Our CCW class in San Bernardino had the same discussion as indicated by your last sentence. I believe you have answered your own question.
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No such requirement here in Butte County to inform either, but now what if I go to another county that requires you to tell them you are carrying, how does one find out about each counties requirements?
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No such requirement here in Butte County to inform either, but now what if I go to another county that requires you to tell them you are carrying, how does one find out about each counties requirements?
If your issuing authority doesn't require you to inform, you are not under any requirement in other counties that do.
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Thanks for the info.
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i remember asking this question during my ccw class.the instructor said a driver with a valid ccw permit should let the officer know that he or she is licensed to carry before he or she even hand over the DL and proof of insurance to the officer however if the permit holder is a passenger he or she is not obligated to inform the officer about the ccw or that he or she is armed unless asked by the officer.
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