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Old 10-30-2009, 01:09 AM
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Default San Diego County Sheriffs Election

I sent an email to Jim Duffy one of the candidates who has garnered a lot of LEO Association endorsements. I specifically asked about 2A and CCW issues.
Here is his response. I bolded the part about good cause. I don't know if he is sincere or if there is hidden meaning "Good Cause" If any of you are familiar with him and his stance I would like to hear it.

"Second amendment position is pretty clear. California Penal code section 12050 allows the sheriff to issue a permit so that a person may carry a concealed and loaded firearm. I will do that. The law requires four elements I must find in order to issue a permit. You must be of good moral character and we'll determine that through a background check. Second, I must find there is good cause, and I will accept personal protection as sufficient reason. Thirdly, you must complete a training program in the safe use and lawful use of a firearm and demonstrate proficiency with its use. Lastly, you must live or work in San Diego County.

My deputies...law enforcement in general, cannot be everywhere to protect you at all times. I agree with you. If you meet the above four criteria required under California law, I'll do my part in issuing a permit. Look Michael, the reality is its not the law abiding citizen who wants to a gun to protect themselves, its the damn gang members you first mention. In my 27 years in law enforcement, as real cop here in San Diego County and not with some federal agency, my first hand experience is that the crooks don't care about permits or training and safety. I see properly trained and permited law abiding citizens as an asset to us doing our job in keeping you safe."
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:18 PM
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I'm not familiar with him, but if he gets elected sounds like it might be good news for you guys and gals down south.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:07 AM
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I'm not familiar with him, but if he gets elected sounds like it might be good news for you guys and gals down south.
I think that 2 of the candidates are very comparable. That is Jay La Suer and Jim Duffy. The current Incumbent who was hand selected by the retiring Sheriff is on the other end of the spectrum who recently stated that Calif is a "Shall NOT Issue" State
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He is not well versed in CA law. This is wrong "Lastly, you must live or work in San Diego County."

By penal code 12050 you must live in San Diego. OR is you live in another county get a 90 day only ccw.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:40 PM
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He is not well versed in CA law. This is wrong "Lastly, you must live or work in San Diego County."

By penal code 12050 you must live in San Diego. OR is you live in another county get a 90 day only ccw.
I didn't catch that thanks CCWI.

I am concerned when he says he will accept personal protection as good cause if he is really saying you have to Carry lots of money, diamonds,jewels or have been threatened etc....which is no different than what we currently have.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:19 PM
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I didn't catch that thanks CCWI.

I am concerned when he says he will accept personal protection as good cause if he is really saying you have to Carry lots of money, diamonds,jewels or have been threatened etc....which is no different than what we currently have.
I don't think that's what he means. In fact "Personal Protection" is usually understood as being the opposite of that. You don't have to show that you are especially at risk. You just want to be able to protect yourself if trouble finds you, and that's good enough.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:30 PM
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I don't think that's what he means. In fact "Personal Protection" is usually understood as being the opposite of that. You don't have to show that you are especially at risk. You just want to be able to protect yourself if trouble finds you, and that's good enough.
Ok thanks for the heads up. I think I have a general distrust of those running for public office.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:37 PM
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Ok thanks for the heads up. I think I have a general distrust of those running for public office.
As well you should.

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I didn't catch that thanks CCWI.

I am concerned when he says he will accept personal protection as good cause if he is really saying you have to Carry lots of money, diamonds,jewels or have been threatened etc....which is no different than what we currently have.
You are right to be suspicious. I would read it that way, too. Otherwise, everyone would have good cause.
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Otherwise, everyone would have good cause.
I think that's exactly what he means.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:11 AM
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I think that's exactly what he means.
Yes, I was being agreeable. Unless these guys come out and say that self defense for all law abiding citizens is good cause, then I too, look at these vague statements as smoke and mirrors.
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