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10-13-2009, 01:02 PM
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Retired LASO Deputy carrying concealed shoots and kills purse snatcher in La Habra...
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
D.A. investigating shooting of man in purse snatching The name of the man killed has not been released. By SERENA MARIA DANIELS and KIMBERLY EDDS The Orange County Register LA HABRA – The District Attorney's office is investigating the shooting death of a man suspected of beng a purse snatcher in which a retired sheriff's deputy chased him through La Habra before opening fire at an apartment complex, authorities said. The name of the man killed has not been released by the District Attorney's office and repeated phone calls to a La Habra police spokeswoman went unanswered Tuesday morning. A woman who had been riding in the car with the man suspected of taking a woman's purse ran off after the shooting. Police were looking for her in the area Monday night. La Habra police have opted for the District Attorney's office to investigate because the shooting involved a retired peace officer, spokeswoman Farrah Emami said. The La Habra Police Department could have handled the investigation itself because the officer was never a member of its department, Emami said. The incident started just after 5 p.m., when a woman called 911 to say that her purse had been grabbed from her in the Sam's Club parking lot in the 1300 block of South Beach Boulevard, La Habra police spokeswoman Cindy Knapp said. While the dispatcher was taking the 911 call about the robbery, a second call came in from a man who told dispatchers he was pursuing a gray Honda occupied by the people he thought were the purse thieves, Knapp said. The chase came to an end at the La Habra Woods apartments in the 700 block of West Imperial Highway with a man dead inside the Honda, Knapp said. His female companion ran off after the shooting. It was not immediately clear who was driving the Honda, Knapp said, or whether anyone inside the car was armed or returned fire. The shooter, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy, is cooperating with police, Knapp said. Under California law, law enforcement agencies can allow officers who retire in good standing to carry concealed weapons. The retired deputy's name is not being released. The woman inside the Honda was described as Hispanic, about 5-feet-6-inches tall, weighing 130 pounds, with red hair in a ponytail, Knapp said. She was wearing a black tank top and black stretch pants, Knapp said. She had either a mole or a tattoo under her right eye, she said. The identity of the man who was shot has not been released. |
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10-13-2009, 01:27 PM
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If more of these type of stories would be in the news perhaps the criminals will commit less crimes knowing they run a good chance of getting shot for their criminal behavior.
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10-13-2009, 01:55 PM
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This does not sound like a legal shoot. It will be curious to see if charges are filed against the shooter. Of course the reporting may have left out pertinent details.
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10-13-2009, 01:57 PM
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More Robert A. Heinlein Quotations: No statement should be believed because it is made by an authority. Robert A. Heinlein I never learned from a man who agreed with me. Robert A. Heinlein Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. Robert A. Heinlein I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. Robert A. Heinlein |
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10-13-2009, 02:05 PM
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10-13-2009, 02:10 PM
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10-13-2009, 02:31 PM
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I haven't seen any authoritative accounts on this shooting. Only those similar to what was posted. Nothing to indicate what happened at the end of the pursuit to cause the retired deputy to believe his life was in danger.
Until such time as the investigation is complete it would be inappropriate to comment.
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10-13-2009, 02:58 PM
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 So true. And better to get them now before they increase in number 
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10-13-2009, 03:16 PM
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Coming to factual conclusions (even if it's just your opinion) based off of incomplete and sometimes biased news report is exactly why we have so many sheeple in America and why so many people that are inexperienced with firearms think they're bad. That being said  , I agree that the article certainly makes it sound questionable - maybe even intentionally, but I'll wait for the full details before coming to a conclusion. Carry on  |
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10-13-2009, 03:32 PM
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I'll give the retired deputy the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise.
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10-13-2009, 04:41 PM
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10-13-2009, 04:51 PM
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I agree with the last post. The civilian CCW holder better be carefull. Retired policeman will get more slack than us civilians, but even he needs to be careful. Hopefully the retired policeman did not start talking untill he got with his lawyer. Stress can be a bad thing when giving statements.
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10-13-2009, 05:06 PM
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10-13-2009, 08:32 PM
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Purse Snatcher Shot and Killed?
Was the ex-sheriff authorized to carry?
The use of a firearm in or near an apartment complex is very dicey. (how many shots fired? What caliber? What load?) Sounds a little like Mighty Mouse to me: "Here I come to save the day!" However, it is prudent to reserve judgement until all the facts are known. Hmmm. a life taken in order to retrieve a purse....let me think about that.
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10-13-2009, 11:18 PM
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*UPDATE*Purse snatcher pulled a fake gun before he was shot...
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Police: Purse snatcher showed a handgun before being shot A woman who accompanied the suspect turned herself into police. By KIMBERLY EDDS and SERENA MARIA DANIELS The Orange County Register LA HABRA – A suspected purse snatcher pulled a fake gun before he was shot dead by a retired sheriff’s deputy, police said today. The former deputy had his wife in the passenger seat when he chased the robbery suspect through La Habra. The District Attorney’s office is investigating Monday’s shooting. A woman who was riding in the same car as the suspected purse snatcher ran off after the shooting. She turned herself in at the La Habra police station Monday night, La Habra police spokeswoman Cindy Knapp said. Shawna Mare Howe, 28, of Las Vegas, was booked on suspicion of robbery, murder and felony assault, Knapp said. Under California's felony murder law, if a felony crime results in a death, anyone suspected in the crime can also be charged with murder. La Habra police have opted for the District Attorney’s office to investigate because the incident involved a retired peace officer, spokeswoman Farrah Emami said. The deadly chase started just after 5 p.m. Monday, when a woman called 911 to say that her purse had been grabbed from her in the Sam’s Club parking lot in the 1300 block of South Beach Boulevard, Knapp said. While the dispatcher was taking the 911 call about the robbery, a second call came in from a man who told dispatchers he was pursuing a gray Honda occupied by the people he thought were the purse thieves, Knapp said. The chase came to an end at the La Habra Woods apartments in the 700 block of West Imperial Highway. There, the man in the grey Honda pulled out a gun, later determined to be a fake gun, before he was shot dead Knapp said. Aerial footage from news helicopters showed what appeared to be a body under a purple tarp under a carport in the complex. His female companion ran off after the shooting. It was not immediately clear who was driving the Honda, Knapp said. The shooter, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy, is cooperating with police, Knapp said. The retired deputy and his wife were not hurt, Knapp said. Under California law, law enforcement agencies can allow officers who retire in good standing to carry concealed weapons. The retired deputy’s name or the name of the dead man have not been released by authorities. |
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