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Old 04-14-2008, 09:20 PM
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So I was working at a client's office today when an employee at the client's office explains her long-range plans to get to retirement. She mentions that her husband wants to move to Nevada, specifically for the gun laws. She then proceeds to say that her husband has backed off moving out of state since he recently received his CCW permit. Needless to say, I was shocked at how freely she shared this information as this is someone I work with about five days per year, I don’t know much about on a personal level, and I have no reason to know about her husband’s CCW whatsoever.

So here's the question: Do I say anything to her, suggesting that she not share the information? If so, I am thinking something along the lines of, "I have a friend with a CCW he keeps his permit a secret from all accept his closest friends and limited family." I am heavily leaning towards saying nothing. This is offset by the fact that I'd be upset if my wife told someone who knows better and they didn't say anything. I will not disclose my own permit either way and for the record, my wife knows not to say a word.

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Old 04-14-2008, 09:27 PM
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So I was working at a client's office today when an employee at the client's office explains her long-range plans to get to retirement. She mentions that her husband wants to move to Nevada, specifically for the gun laws. She then proceeds to say that her husband has backed off moving out of state since he recently received his CCW permit. Needless to say, I was shocked at how freely she shared this information as this is someone I work with about five days per year, I don’t know much about on a personal level, and I have no reason to know about her husband’s CCW whatsoever.

So here's the question: Do I say anything to her, suggesting that she not share the information? If so, I am thinking something along the lines of, "I have a friend with a CCW he keeps his permit a secret from all accept his closest friends and limited family." I am heavily leaning towards saying nothing. This is offset by the fact that I'd be upset if my wife told someone who knows better and they didn't say anything. I will not disclose my own permit either way and for the record, my wife knows not to say a word.

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I wouldnt interfere with somebody else's relationship, make a big deal out of it, or try to stir up trouble between them.... Its not like shes revealing classified nuclear weapons secrets to the Chinese.

If you think its none of your business, youre right... It probably isn't..... If she tells you stuff you think she shouldn't, just nod your head and put it out of your mind.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:21 PM
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:54 AM
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Loose lips, sink ships.... it goes both ways. Or secretly leave a calccw card lying on her desk...but say nothing.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:30 AM
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:37 AM
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I might be inclined to fit this into a conversation somewhere... "if i had a CCW, I'm not sure I'd want lots of people to know about it, how does your husband feel about that?"

..... Then again, the Dr. Laura voice in my head would say ...."do not interfere in other people's relationships."
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:47 AM
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Everyone has their own threshold for disclosing CCW. Yours is apparently much more reserved than hers. I would suggest you take the remark for what it was, idle conversation with someone who obviously trusts you enough to disclose and/or does not have as high a confidentiality requirement as you do. I would not recommend you 'correct' her.
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I might be inclined to fit this into a conversation somewhere... "if i had a CCW, I'm not sure I'd want lots of people to know about it, how does your husband feel about that?"

..... Then again, the Dr. Laura voice in my head would say ...."do not interfere in other people's relationships."
Oh man. That is SCARY!
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:13 AM
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Oh man. That is SCARY!
At least it's just her voice .....
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The problem with remaining covert is that the people in CA who don't know that average people they know have CCW's will vote against CCW here. I for one show my CCW as an ID whenever asked for one. Too many people have never seen one and don't know they exist who would be on our side if we introduced them to it. Our silence and keeping to ourselves has made us a minority that doesn't even get the benefit of minority status. It has been our greatest mistake as gun owners and as CCW holders, and it's a mistake I have learned not to continue.
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The problem with remaining covert is that the people in CA who don't know that average people they know have CCW's will vote against CCW here. I for one show my CCW as an ID whenever asked for one. Too many people have never seen one and don't know they exist who would be on our side if we introduced them to it. Our silence and keeping to ourselves has made us a minority that doesn't even get the benefit of minority status. It has been our greatest mistake as gun owners and as CCW holders, and it's a mistake I have learned not to continue.

A lot of people prefer to remain anonymous for their own safety and the safety of others. Which is also the reason they have a CCW in the first place. Imagine being in a bank when robbers come in and somebody shouts "you have a gun do something!" who would be the first (and probably the only) person to get shot? Or people who have a CCW but live and work around anti gun environments?

Personally, only my closest family may be the only people that will know if I do or do not have a CCW, and I know a lot of people here wouldn't even tell those people. It's an extremely personal thing and a lot of us realize that your own safety may depend on keeping it to yourself.
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Ah, so you keep it secret right until the point it gets outlawed. Then what? I can understand being discreet about CCW maybe, but being a gun owner and supporter of right to carry isn't something to be too quiet about. Anti gun work environments need to be converted, not left as they are. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating disruption or boisterousness or being over the top fruitcake about it, but simply sitting there twittling our thumbs and smiling and nodding while we get trashed and thrown into the hate bin just isn't cutting it.
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Ah, so you keep it secret right until the point it gets outlawed. Then what? I can understand being discreet about CCW maybe, but being a gun owner and supporter of right to carry isn't something to be too quiet about. Anti gun work environments need to be converted, not left as they are. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating disruption or boisterousness or being over the top fruitcake about it, but simply sitting there twittling our thumbs and smiling and nodding while we get trashed and thrown into the hate bin just isn't cutting it.
Being a gun owner and discussing it with the anti-gun people has nothing to do with CCW. You can discuss firearms all day long without the slightest mention of CCW. As far as I'm concerned, nobody needs to know I carry; except for the very few that do know.
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Ah, so you keep it secret right until the point it gets outlawed. Then what? I can understand being discreet about CCW maybe, but being a gun owner and supporter of right to carry isn't something to be too quiet about. Anti gun work environments need to be converted, not left as they are. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating disruption or boisterousness or being over the top fruitcake about it, but simply sitting there twittling our thumbs and smiling and nodding while we get trashed and thrown into the hate bin just isn't cutting it.
Concealed means concealed. Telling everyone and their mother, that you carry a gun is stupid. Talk about guns in a positive light, take the folks shooting, teach kids gun safety - all good things. Increasing gun/shooting awareness and popularity is a wonderful thing. That has NOTHING to do with the fact that we can carry concealed.

There is a very shot list of folks outside of my immediate family (and some shooting buddies here on the board) that know i carry. Among them are my pastor and some LEO's at church. This was a strategic issue as I didn't want them shooting me if something happened at church. Even some of my family doesn't know. Not because they are anti's or anything like that - it is because they have no NEED to know.
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Yellowfin,

As you read more posts on this site, you will see that this site is dedicated to getting individuals their CCWs under the existing conditions. This is not a political advocacy or activist site. There are other sites out there that are choosing that approach.

Our focus is on increasing the number of people with CCWs throughout the state and staying within the laws.
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