"Nightstand" Set Up (and too close for comfort)

[Hoser]

Originally Posted by The Gimper

I think if I were to do keep it under my pillow I would keep it in a holster.

Maybe a "Pillow Holster"?:
The Pillow Holster

Or, if you want to keep it under/near the mattress, a "Matress Holster"!:
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[libertarian]

Originally Posted by Hoser

Maybe a "Pillow Holster"?:
The Pillow Holster

Or, if you want to keep it under/near the mattress, a "Matress Holster"!:
DJStudios_-_Mattress_Holster_3 » Page 1 of 3

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That's pretty cool, but the pillow holster still looks kinda uncomfortable.

[Hoser]

Originally Posted by libertarian

That's pretty cool, but the pillow holster still looks kinda uncomfortable.

I don't think you sleep directly on it, you put it under your pillow!



(j/k)

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[PHM]

Originally Posted by Rodsteal

All this talk about home defense made me think about maybe loading the Benelli M-1 and keeping it in the safe. I had a few rifled slugs I used for pig hunting last weekend and just loaded them. Anyone have any idea how far a slug will go? I am wondering if my neighbors have to be worried? I know what they will do to a razor back.

I have a 6 round saddle attched to the side, the gun is 5 and 1. If I cant get the job done with 12 slugs...unless its Big Foot I am fighting.

Double 00 buck or #4 buck is the way to go for home defense, slugs are overkill. Racking the slide on a shotgun usually does the trick to fend of any intruder.

[libertarian]

Nothing says "Get the hell out" better than the sound of a shotgun being racked.

Like I told my girlfriend when she got her HD shotgun - "If racking the shotgun doesn't make them leave, you're going to have to use it."

Slugs? You can't be serious. Those things will go right through your neighbor's house. Stick to #00 or #1 buck for best results. Save the slugs for wild boar.

[K-dog.v3]

Save the "racking the slide" for Hollywood.

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by K-dog.v3

Save the "racking the slide" for Hollywood.

Why? It's one of the reasons our patrol shotguns aren't chambered. I've seen it work several times.

[Poogsdad]

Originally Posted by hbliam

Why? It's one of the reasons our patrol shotguns aren't chambered. I've seen it work several times.

I agree.

"Racking the slide" on a shotgun, the "Red Dot" of a laser, 200 lumens of light in the eyes, the deployment of an Asp, a Tazer, OC/Pepper Spray, DT/USD, verbal Judo, etc. are all tools that can serve to de-escalate a situation and reduce the possibility that you have to shoot somebody. Like hbliam, I have also seen the effectiveness of many of these tools.

As CCW holders we have all made the commitment to use lethal force if necesarry. We are equiped to do so and prepared to live with the emotional, psychological, and and financial consequenses of our actions. This is the primary difference between us and the majority of our fellow human beings.

While some of these tools are predominantly LEO tools, most, if not all, can also be used in a home defense or personal defense situation by a non-LEO quite effectively.

In some case it will be a matter of availability. Predominantly, however, it is a matter of training and willingness. Any training in the use of any tool that may reduce the need to use lethal force is always a good thing.

There are many possibilities here. I think it is prudent and healthy to at least consider them before ruling them out.

I will step off my soapbox now.

Thanks,

[Bombard]

Originally Posted by Poogsdad

I agree.

"Racking the slide" on a shotgun, the "Red Dot" of a laser, 200 lumens of light in the eyes, the deployment of an Asp, a Tazer, OC/Pepper Spray, DT/USD, verbal Judo, etc. are all tools that can serve to de-escalate a situation and reduce the possibility that you have to shoot somebody. Like hbliam, I have also seen the effectiveness of many of these tools.

I agree. What is an Asp - other than the Seventrees modified S&W 39?

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by Bombard

I agree. What is an Asp - other than the Seventrees modified S&W 39?

It's a retractable baton.

[K-dog.v3]

Originally Posted by hbliam

Why? It's one of the reasons our patrol shotguns aren't chambered. I've seen it work several times.

Really? Is there a written policy on how to use it???

If he doesn't lose his bowels after hearing the rack then do you shoot?

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by K-dog.v3

Really? Is there a written policy on how to use it???

If he doesn't lose his bowels after hearing the rack then do you shoot?

Your being argumentative now.

And yes there is a written policy that states the shotgun is secured without a round in the chamber.

[rycerz]

Originally Posted by hbliam

Why? It's one of the reasons our patrol shotguns aren't chambered. I've seen it work several times.

Umm how bout it's a sure way to give away your position? You might scare some, but you might tell others where to come and get you.

[PHM]

Originally Posted by hbliam

Your being argumentative now.

And yes there is a written policy that states the shotgun is secured without a round in the chamber.

Another reason to not chamber a shotgun in a patrol car is to prevent accidental discharge. There have been many AD's that have blown holes in the roof of radio cars after an officer forgets to unchamber the round after a call. An incident like that will probably get an offier a few days off.

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by PHM

Another reason to not chamber a shotgun in a patrol car is to prevent accidental discharge. There have been many AD's that have blown holes in the roof of radio cars after an officer forgets to unchamber the round after a call. An incident like that will probably get an offier a few days off.

Notice I said "one" of the reasons.