Busy weekend/LEO contact and BG contact

[KimberDude]

Great job, man! Way to deter the bad guys! You may want to add your story, if you choose on the Armed Citizen column on the NRA website.

NRA-ILA :: Armed Citizen

[CowboyCCW]

just curious...I have a CCW from San Joaquin County. My wife and I have a little boy, and we're not sure if we should tell him that daddy carries a gun (when he's old enough of course) - does your daughter know that you carry?

[EM2]

Originally Posted by CowboyCCW

just curious...I have a CCW from San Joaquin County. My wife and I have a little boy, and we're not sure if we should tell him that daddy carries a gun (when he's old enough of course) - does your daughter know that you carry?

My 2cents if I may.

This applies to all children, wives, girlfriends, family members etc. Any of which could slip up at any time.

Things to possibly consider before telling young children or others.
1 Does this child give hugs constantly and may 'feel' the firearm or bump his head and call out load 'what's that hard thing daddy?'.
2 If you do tell your child, can he be taught not to comment about it during a 'situation' where it may not be appropriate to draw? You do not need a child telling a bank robber to stop because daddy has a gun.
3 Is your child ego driven and may brag to other kids that his daddy has a gun on him all the time.

I am not promoting not telling people, just to be careful.
I do believe that the more people that understand the decision to carry the more acceptable it could become.

[NSP]

I'm using a little different tactic with my son. He helps me when I'm reloading (he loves the kinetic bullet puller), I have him watch me when I'm cleaning or adjusting my firearms after shoot days, and I'm getting ready to start training him with hands on unloaded guns. Let him hold them and look at them untill he gets bored with them. But I'm not going to tell him that I carry, being familiar with being around guns I don't anticipate that he would take any special not that if I slip up I have a walnut piece of wood sticking out the back of my pants.

'what's that hard thing daddy?'
It's my cell phone son.

[gravedigger]

Now, maybe I'm just a little more impulsive than most, but I have a digital camera always at the ready, and I certainly would have shot a photo of them or their car for police to follow up on. Any other shots would be optional!

[Ken_In_Colo]

As far as telling, only my wife knows.

3 1/2 yo grandson is crazy about guns. As far as he knows though, the only gun I have is my 1861 Colt Navy .36 black powder in the display case in my office (I've since had to put it away in the safe b/c of his sudden interest in it. w/a 3 yo boy, its "out of sight out of mind."). He's too young to know that 'gwampa' carries.

[savagemaxx]

All my children are aware that Dad carries. My two oldest daughters were aware of the fact that I was taking the classes, and had gone to the interview, both are also aware that it is to be kept a family secret. As a family, our two main sources of recreation are shooting and kayaking. All my children shoot regularly at the range. My two oldest are now into trap and bird hunting.

The two youngest discovered dad’s secret on their own. One walked into our room to tell me dinner was ready while I was changing my shirt, the other decided to attack me from behind the couch as I came through the door, resulting in the unpleasant realization that there was something hard underneath dad's shirt, and it’s not a cell phone. This lead to the discussion about what concealed carry was, what it meant for our family, and why it must remain a family secret. I notice that they now hug me on weak side to avoid the head vs. 1911 collision.

As a family that has numerous firearms, my wife and I have spent many hours reinforcing the notion that our guns are no ones business. They are not to be discussed with anyone at school or in the neighborhood. We also have taken several classes on defense in the home and have spent quite a bit of time working with our children on “what to do if”.

[sealbeach]

Originally Posted by savagemaxx

All my children are aware that Dad carries. My two oldest daughters were aware of the fact that I was taking the classes, and had gone to the interview, both are also aware that it is to be kept a family secret. As a family, our two main sources of recreation are shooting and kayaking. All my children shoot regularly at the range. My two oldest are now into trap and bird hunting.

The two youngest discovered dad’s secret on their own. One walked into our room to tell me dinner was ready while I was changing my shirt, the other decided to attack me from behind the couch as I came through the door, resulting in the unpleasant realization that there was something hard underneath dad's shirt, and it’s not a cell phone. This lead to the discussion about what concealed carry was, what it meant for our family, and why it must remain a family secret. I notice that they now hug me on weak side to avoid the head vs. 1911 collision.

As a family that has numerous firearms, my wife and I have spent many hours reinforcing the notion that our guns are no ones business. They are not to be discussed with anyone at school or in the neighborhood. We also have taken several classes on defense in the home and have spent quite a bit of time working with our children on “what to do if”.

OK, no excuse for not making it to our next range day with the kids! Good post, i have had similar discussions with our kids--my son was trying too hard to explain the 2nd amendment to his classmates, (and he can recite it perfectly) but the little liberals at school were arguing for gun control (sound familiar?), i assured my son that any discussion of guns is just not a topic he should discuss at school, I think he got the message <sigh>.

[Ken_In_Colo]

Originally Posted by sealbeach

OK, no excuse for not making it to our next range day with the kids! Good post, i have had similar discussions with our kids--my son was trying too hard to explain the 2nd amendment to his classmates, (and he can recite it perfectly) but the little liberals at school were arguing for gun control (sound familiar?), i assured my son that any discussion of guns is just not a topic he should discuss at school, I think he got the message <sigh>.

+1

Too bad that being on the 'wrong' side of the 2A now gets you into trouble in our PC school systems.

[EM2]

Originally Posted by Ken_In_Colo

Too bad that being on the 'wrong' side of the 2A now gets you into trouble in our PC school systems.

At my kids school last year the topic of firearms came up in history class and the instructor, in a move to make a point to a foriegn exchange student, polled the class on quantity of firearms in the home. Most hands were still up all the way to 15 firearms in the home.

Another history teacher who is retired now used to bring in his civil war firearms collection and pass them out to the students to handle and learn about.

Sadly it appears that most schools are bastions of liberal indoctrination.

[savagemaxx]

Originally Posted by EM2

Sadly it appears that most schools are bastions of liberal indoctrination.

I live in the midst of an ultralib school district. Both my oldest now are in an independant studies program. Thier teacher, who workes for the same utlralib district saw me in Sportmans Warehouse buying a few cases of 12 guage shells. He asked if my daughters hunted as well, and I told him yes. He told me how much he disapproves of the way our school district handles things, and said that it took him almost a month to deprogram his youngest as the teachers had told him how "wrong it was to hunt". I hate this school district.

[rickr96]

Originally Posted by savagemaxx

. I notice that they now hug me on weak side to avoid the head vs. 1911 collision.

Yet another reason to carry a Glock...

"Glock Safe Action Pistols - For the Children..."

[Ken_In_Colo]

Originally Posted by rickr96

Yet another reason to carry a Glock...

"...For the Children..."

I got it! Very clever.

I love when those libs can't think of a good reason for something they use "For the children."

[emc002]

All my kids that are old enough to communicate effectively (5 & 3, not the 2 year old) know I carry. We have a code word for it both in the home and out in public should the need ever arise. My 5 yo son shoots with me (he has a Henry Mini-Bolt) and watches me practice at the range and my dry fire drills in my office.
They know not to discuss my "safety" or Poppa's guns in general with ANYBODY, and I've explicitly made that include teachers or doctors if they're ever asked (which appears to be more & more common).

[leatherneck2002]

I've been shooting since I was 5 and I was told and taught never to discuss my father's LEO status with anyone. My 4 year old is more than capable of communicating and he went shooting with me for the second time last weekend. Also, last weekend he shot his first gun (my first gun) a bolt action .22 chipmunk. He was thrilled and even brought the brass to his mom who I am divorced from... LOL... I was thrilled to be able to teach gun safety and responsibility to my 4 year old son. It is those fundamentals that start at an early age that make this society a safer place for all of us, because if a 4 year old knows how to deal familiar and unfamiliar firearms it will trickle down to his friends and relatives. My ex-wife is a pacifist to the highest power (why I married her pm me and ask if you want to know) so it was great to be able to do such a fun and productive activity with my son. Also, when they get older they have better SA and can even to some degree improve yours.