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Old 01-20-2008, 10:49 AM
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I think this scenario falls under the "police booth at the faire" question on the quiz.

Then again...it's SOCAL. Comrade - Show your papers, pleaze!
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:58 AM
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My opinion is that whenever I have a meeting with a copper in uniform I would mention my CCW...to cover my arse with the PSD. When I have mentioned it they do not care but it covers my behind and I am conforming to the rules I agreed to when I received the CCW.

The conversation has to last for more than a couple minutes i.e. I was stopped by a Santa Monica copper while walking a dog because they wanted to know what kind of dog it was (good looking beast etc.) and I did not mention the CCW because the conversation lasted for less then a couple of minutes and I was carrying a fanny pack, in front and clearly visible.
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:20 AM
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My opinion is that whenever I have a meeting with a copper in uniform I would mention my CCW...to cover my arse with the PSD. When I have mentioned it they do not care but it covers my behind and I am conforming to the rules I agreed to when I received the CCW.

The conversation has to last for more than a couple minutes i.e. I was stopped by a Santa Monica copper while walking a dog because they wanted to know what kind of dog it was (good looking beast etc.) and I did not mention the CCW because the conversation lasted for less then a couple of minutes and I was carrying a fanny pack, in front and clearly visible.
Well we all know carrying in a fanny pack is almost announcing anyway! J/K

But you get a pass because you were out walking your dog.
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:49 PM
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So the answer to the pop quiz is to tell the LEO. I have actually stayed in contact with the deputy in question and will be doing a ride a long on Thursday, I will ask his opinion.
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:54 PM
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So the answer to the pop quiz is to tell the LEO. I have actually stayed in contact with the deputy in question and will be doing a ride a long on Thursday, I will ask his opinion.

have fun and curious to hear his opinion.
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:12 PM
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So the answer to the pop quiz is to tell the LEO. I have actually stayed in contact with the deputy in question and will be doing a ride a long on Thursday, I will ask his opinion.
Okokokok that is not fair. So fess up what did you do? I am guesing you kept it to yourself.
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:15 PM
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Okokokok that is not fair. So fess up what did you do? I am guesing you kept it to yourself.
If he had told him, he wouldn't need to be asking his opinion on the ride-along. He'd already know.
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:21 PM
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If he had told him, he wouldn't need to be asking his opinion on the ride-along. He'd already know.
No he could ask "was I right to tell you when I did?".
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:14 PM
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So the answer to the pop quiz is to tell the LEO. I have actually stayed in contact with the deputy in question and will be doing a ride a long on Thursday, I will ask his opinion.
I really don't care what the deputy thinks, and nobody else should either. If you really want to know the know to the quiz. Call Captain Dave Nighswonger at PSD.

PSD opinion is the only that matters.
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I really don't care what the deputy thinks, and nobody else should either. If you really want to know the know to the quiz. Call Captain Dave Nighswonger at PSD.

PSD opinion is the only that matters.
I have been observing this thread with interest since it was started by THaves.

The different viewpoints expressed are reflection of the diversity of the people expressing them and all are contributory.

Something that has not come up however, at least specifically, is the fact that many California LEOs have never even seen a California CCW Permit. Some may even still believe that California does not issue CCWs, period.

Some have some awareness of CCW requirements in their Counties however, they deal with CCW issues so rarely that their ability to handle these issues may not always be appropriate to the situation.

The requirements regarding LEO notification of CCW status upon contact all vary from County to County and itemizing the specific differences would most likey require a great deal of research and analysis.

We all have an opinion on this and all of our opinions are valuable and contributory, however, to paraphrase CCWI "Only the opinion of the issuing authority is the one that matters".

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Any possibilities that the sheriffs of California can come together and develop a uniform policy?
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Any possibilities that the sheriffs of California can come together and develop a uniform policy?
Sure.

And John Edwards could be elected President this year.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:57 PM
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Any possibilities that the sheriffs of California can come together and develop a uniform policy?
Why? Just follow the policy of your issuing authority. Or in some cases your own common sense.
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Why? Just follow the policy of your issuing authority. Or in some cases your own common sense.
Because it can create difficulties when you travel. If you are in a county where the Sheriff doesn't want you to notify, but your Sheriff does want you to notify, you have a conflict.
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:55 PM
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Because it can create difficulties when you travel. If you are in a county where the Sheriff doesn't want you to notify, but your Sheriff does want you to notify, you have a conflict.

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I'm assuming most OC deputies know that OC permits must be announced, but do they know that doesn't apply to other issuing agencies, some even within OC?
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