Carrying Incident at Evans. (POSTED FOR: Tough Guy Levi)

[AMS MIKE]

Saw Levi posted this on the El Dorado thread and I thought it needed a thread of its own!

Originally Posted by Tough Guy Levi

Howdy All:

You are not going to believe this but honest injun, it's true. While seated near the front counter in Evans Shooting World (Orange, CA indoor range), a couple (mid-20s) entered the range. The gal proceeded to place a large purse on the counter and asks Pat (Range Officer) if he could look at a revolver's finish for her?

She then took a nickel plated Colt double action revolver out of her purse, cylinder closed, swept me, another enthusiast and wound up pointing the revolver at PAT. For a big guy, PAT can sure move quickly because he swiped the weapon away from him in a direction away from all of us. PAT then removed the weapon from her hands, opened the Colt's cylinder, looked at the finish and informs her the wear is normal for a nickel plated weapon. She then took the weapon from Pat, closed the cylinder and began (without regard to direction) to place it in her purse (no holster- no wonder finish is worn). Excuse me Pat asked, "do you have a carry concealed weapon permt"? No then Pat informed her she could be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon and at least place a lock on the revolver. "Do you have one"? No and reluctanly she agreed to purchase (had to use credit card) a lock that PAT installed and out the door they went with an attitude!!

We all gave each other "I don't believe it LOOK". She worked for a government agency (non-enforcement), was very cute (acted the part like Paris H) but didn't have a clue about firearm safe handling!

And now you know the rest of the story!!

Tough Guy Levi
NRA Certified Pistol Instructor

[1buba]

Amazing. There are indeed people that should not be allowed to TOUCH a gun!!!

[X-ffdo]

There are a few, fortunately, that should not touch an an airplane either!

[Sigman]

Originally Posted by 1buba

Amazing. There are indeed people that should not be allowed to TOUCH a gun!!!

That's the way you first showed me your Kimber. Oh wait I remember I was reaching for one of your wontons.

[TaxMan]

I'm sorry, but if she swept me, I am saying something to her.
What an idiot!!! That's a prime example of someone that has no knowledge about the proper handling of firearms.

[sealbeach]

Clueless AND dangerous. Sadly, there are probably a LOT of people in that same situation : carrying illegally and in an unsafe manner. There ARE some good aspects to laws requiring training and qualification in order to legally carry. Our system in CA has an achilles heel in that the issuing agency can just refuse to issue, (like San Franciseo, Los Angeles, etc.) but personally I am not so sure if an "anything goes" system is the answer. I really like the Utah and Florida systems, "shall" issue, yet requiring some training and qualification and background checks.

I am always stunned at the clueless people that show up at ranges to shoot, they are at least making an attempt to go to the correct place, so we do need to try to help them to a certain level.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by sealbeach

I really like the Utah and Florida systems, "shall" issue, yet requiring some training and qualification and background checks.

I am always stunned at the clueless people that show up at ranges to shoot, they are at least making an attempt to go to the correct place, so we do need to try to help them to a certain level.

SB, I couldn't agree with you more. The right of owning a gun comes with the responsibility to make sure that you know how to safely handle and use it. Doubly so for carrying it. The first thing I did after I bought my first gun was to sign up for a basic handgun safety course. I didn't even want to go to the range and fire it without getting some training. As far as CCW, I say go shall issue but require training (and I would require more training than the current CCW qualification class).