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Old 09-15-2009, 07:16 AM
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When asked why I have a carry license I reply "It is a requirement of my employment."

If asked "What do you do?" I reply, "I am not at liberty to discuss that subject."

That usually ends the Q&A.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:56 AM
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The officer stated that he stopped you because of your license plate light. The second the officer stated that your license plate light was okay, he had no reason to ask for your license and registration because the stop was unwarranted and you should not have been detained any further. Requiring you to show him your license and registration was a violation of your rights. I feel you should have declined to show him and asked if you were free to go. If he declined to let you leave, he would be in violation of Title 42 U.S. Code Section 1983 (federal Civil Rights law). I believe in standing up for one's rights; otherwise, they slowly get eroded and officers (and others) start taking them away. I don't want to give up any of my rights or liberties. There are too many Americans who gave up their lives so that I (and you) can have the freedoms and liberties that all Americans enjoy. Such things must be vigilantly protected.

You probably just wanted to cooperate and be a nice guy. I would have stood up for my rights.
+1. If you notice he "asked" you if he could get your license. As soon as he said the reason he stopped you was unfounded you could have said "well that is good news that my vehicle is in proper working order and have a great evening" His fishing method is going to get him and his dept in trouble one day IMHO
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:27 PM
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When asked why I have a carry license I reply "It is a requirement of my employment."

If asked "What do you do?" I reply, "I am not at liberty to discuss that subject."

That usually ends the Q&A.
I love that answer. Problem is, our occupation is listed on the CCW. I wish it wasn't.
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Old 09-16-2009, 03:16 AM
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I love that answer. Problem is, our occupation is listed on the CCW. I wish it wasn't.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:26 AM
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More like OLD RETIRED GUY WITH A CUSHY DESK JOB.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:28 AM
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I love that answer. Problem is, our occupation is listed on the CCW. I wish it wasn't.
Mine just says "Plain clothes security duties." Pretty generic.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:25 PM
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Only thing retired gets you in Orange County is your CCW is not renewed. No job, No recent assaults, NO CCW.
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