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06-10-2009, 05:11 PM
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We have camera's taking your picture in some of our major intersections if you run a red light, so LE has really stepped up and made it a point to stop people for no front plate. And perhaps the unpleasant conversation was just to check you out, and allow him to smell for alcohol? Who knows? It all sounds like things worked out!!
In Bakersfield we have these fequent "Check Points". The BPD originally use to only do this during the holidays, looking for DUI drivers. Now they seem to have them at least once a month and, I believe they are looking for more of the non-licensed driver types than the DUI jerks. They usually impound at least 50 or more vehicles during these so called "check points". It does make one feel like they are living in a Police State but, it is...what it is. I'm also shocked by just how many people they catch that don't have a drivers license and are still driving!
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06-10-2009, 05:40 PM
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06-13-2009, 11:41 PM
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Front plates have become more important to cities and counties since red light cameras started. Sacramento City Council even tried to pass an ordinance requiring a front plate on all vehicles and had a $250 fine. The city attorney said can't do that. The state vehicle code already has the same section. Besides not all vehicles get a front plate. State law beats city ordinance. One of our Honda Accords had a 2 cent plastic thing holding the front plate. Bounced all over the place. Asked the dealer if there was anything better. The guy drilled through the front bumper and screwed the plate on. Told me that the feds require all cars/light trucks to have a way to attach a front plate to the vehilce. Car makers usually cover the front screw holds with the plastic bumper cover.
The officer was digging. He may or may not have seen you come from the church. Was trying to confirm what he saw. If you had said store and he saw you come from the church, he may have been able to dig a little deeper, depending on other circumstances. Yes, your car would attrach attention. So do loud pipes, raised 4x4s with no mud flaps (my pet peeve). Certain people will give you the answer they think you want to hear. With 1 year with a city pd and 32 yrs with the state, "techincal" violations - front plates, burned out lights, etc - have been more than useful quite frequently. CHP has two fix-it tickets it can issue. One goes to the local traffic court and the second is handled by the department. If you get one of those, you just correct the problem within 30 days and mail the ticket back to the office where the isuing office works at. Should be an address stamp on you card stock copy. Costs you one postage stamp. Or you can drop it off at the nearest CHP office. They usually will send the ticket to the correct office. If you don't return your copy, the CHP copy is sent to the DA and the process is turned over to the traffic court.
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06-14-2009, 07:04 AM
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I had the (sic) pleasure of spending several days driving in Bay Area & environs traffic over the past week or so. On Bay Area proper freeways, out of hundreds of cars that I remembered to check, I counted three with no front plate. These were all cars going the same direction as I, so I could confirm that they were all California cars.
But out in the valley, on I-5, around 10% of the cars going the opposite direction had no front plate. But, of course, not having a set of binoculars on the back of my head, I couldn't tell what state they were from. Still, it's probably a safe bet almost all of them were from California. I didn't notice any vehicles going the same direction as I with no front plate. But of course most of them passed me so fast that I hardly had time to notice. Interesting.
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06-14-2009, 10:16 AM
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Front plate is not required in Florida, so people can replace it with cool "plaques" like this:
 Every speciality store has different plate inserts so you can brag about your hobby.
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06-14-2009, 10:49 AM
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06-14-2009, 12:12 PM
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06-14-2009, 01:09 PM
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I don't have a front license plate on my street legal KTM and don't need one, but for some reason cars do. I don't have a seat belt and don't have to wear one on my KTM, but for some reason cars do. I don't have a license plate light on my KTM - just a clear piece of plastic under the brake light to slightly illuminate the tiny license place - but for some reason cars do.
Wow...hope no democrat politicians are reading this. I might just lose some more liberty.
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06-14-2009, 11:17 PM
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06-15-2009, 12:44 AM
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"If you don't shoot, you can't score" "The movement of the prey, stimulates the predator" 'The universe favors the prepared mind"
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06-15-2009, 12:49 AM
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KTM=motorcycle
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06-15-2009, 06:17 AM
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Great off-road travel bikes. They run them in the Paris-Dakkar ralley.
KTM.com - Ready to Race - KTM-Sportmotorcycle AG
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06-15-2009, 09:26 AM
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I say "keep on profiling". It's when they STOP profiling that we will have problems. Profiling works. If you look the part, expect to get pulled over. I would guess 8 out of 10 times profiling pays off. As long as they aren't breaking the law, the other two people who got pulled over should just be happy the LEO's are out there doing there jobs. LEO's have a hard job so if they are short with me (or even rude) I take it with a grain of salt.
I too would think coming from Church at 11PM would sound odd. Who knows, maybe your car fit the description of an earlier incident. It sounds like it all worked out fine.
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