Non-bolted car lock boxes

[El Gato]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

Based on this reasoning, what happens when you have to open the box to remove the securing cable to carry the box into the house from the car?

Because I have my guns secured in my trunk right now, and I would sure love to be able to bring them into the house to clean them.

OK ... I'll bite... If your car is in an "attached" garage, it is, as a function of law, I believe, inside your inhabitable residence....so would you need to put it in a locked container to remove it from the locked container(trunk) into your house when you have already placed your locked container in your house (parked car in attached garage) and still not broken PC 12026.1....arrrggghhhh

[IAmASensFan]

The short answer I got tonight...is that when transporting the gun in a car, it must be locked.

If the car is stopped, at the beginning or end of your journey, you aren't "transporting" by motor vehicle. Other exceptions take over at this point.

But is sure is fun watching folks have an anurism!

[TaxMan]

Oh what a wonderful feeling though, while right in front of the new OCSD training facility (on dedication day), unholstering, unloading and locking my Kimber under the back seat of my truck, without the slightest "second glance" by ANY of the LEOs walking past or standing around. I think I'm getting pretty good at this. Either that or they could care less. BTW, in staying on topic, I have 4 of those locking cases, keyed alike.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

The short answer I got tonight...is that when transporting the gun in a car, it must be locked.

If the car is stopped, at the beginning or end of your journey, you aren't "transporting" by motor vehicle. Other exceptions take over at this point.

But is sure is fun watching folks have an anurism!

The anurism comment was in reference to us trying to figure this one out...not people freaking because they see you locking/unlocking a gun case.

Must...finish...my...thought...

[El Gato]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

The short answer I got tonight...is that when transporting the gun in a car, it must be locked.

If the car is stopped, at the beginning or end of your journey, you aren't "transporting" by motor vehicle. Other exceptions take over at this point.

But is sure is fun watching folks have an anurism!

I think you will find, if you read 12026.1, that the trunk is a locked container if there is no "pass through" or other access from the drivers compartment. This brings CA. into compliance with Federal Law... title 18 or something like that..... 12026.1 is often interpreted as requiring a gun, which is not listed by serial number on your permit, to be carried unloaded and in a locked container. The interpretation around here (kern co) has been the trunk is a locked contatainer in that: it fully encloses the firearm and is locked with a lock.... However, you still have the difficulties of carrying it to and from in a locked container.

[CCWInstructor]

So you take the gun to the trunk in a locked container, you then unlock the container and then close the trunk. When you want to remove it from the trunk, you open the trunk lock the container and then leave.

I just want to confirm that I am understanding your post.

[EM2]

Wow !!
We are all over the place here.
If you are transporting a firearm and have no CCW to cover it, than it must be in a locked container. Ok.
Now, if the locked container is attached to your vehicle as in the case with the cable attached to the safe, then what is the problem when you remove it from the vehicle?
When you arrive home if you are on your own private property, attached garage or not, you can remove the gun regardless. On private property there are no laws restricting the transportation of your lawfully own firearm.
(Please feel free to correct me here if needed.)
If you have arrived at your destination where you are legally able to use your firearm, such as hunting destination, gun range, etc., than what is the problem?
The only area I see where you may have some difficulty is if you are at an apartment complex and need to transport your firearm back into your apartment. I cannot see it being a problem to open the safe & detach the cable & then close & lock the safe back while it is in your vehicle because you are not transporting it and you have a right to handle your own property in order to ready it for legal transport.

Now that being said please feel free once again to pick this apart.
Thank You for your patience.

[CCWInstructor]

[quote=EM2;18148]Wow !!

The only area I see where you may have some difficulty is if you are at an apartment complex and need to transport your firearm back into your apartment. I cannot see it being a problem to open the safe & detach the cable & then close & lock the safe back while it is in your vehicle because you are not transporting it and you have a right to handle your own property in order to ready it for legal transport.

QUOTE]

You are completely correct. And to be very FRANK ( ) I never did understand the problems that people were asking about.

If you are on private property or public property, once you stop your vehicle you are no longer transporting. Unlock the box, remove the cable and re-lock it up.

What is so hard to understand, it seems simple to me.

Sens Fans and I had this exact conversation Thursday night.

[X-ffdo]

Thank God for CCWs!. Not the same as BBWs.

[Magneto]

Originally Posted by tango-52

Found it. I've got four of them. They are great.

Center Of Mass Central

Thanks for the link. I just picked up two mediums.

[OCRancher]

[quote=CCWInstructor;18151]

Originally Posted by EM2

Wow !!

The only area I see where you may have some difficulty is if you are at an apartment complex and need to transport your firearm back into your apartment. I cannot see it being a problem to open the safe & detach the cable & then close & lock the safe back while it is in your vehicle because you are not transporting it and you have a right to handle your own property in order to ready it for legal transport.

QUOTE]

You are completely correct. And to be very FRANK ( ) I never did understand the problems that people were asking about.

If you are on private property or public property, once you stop your vehicle you are no longer transporting. Unlock the box, remove the cable and re-lock it up.

What is so hard to understand, it seems simple to me.

Sens Fans and I had this exact conversation Thursday night.

I was wondering when you were going to state the obvious.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

Sens Fans and I had this exact conversation Thursday night.

Yes, and you'll remember I was being sarcastic, too

This law has it's faults, but California decided to err on the side of caution for this, and I even err further on the side of caution while transporting my firearms.

What ticks me off, is that this law doesn't allow us the opportunity to install some pretty cool James Bond stuff in our cars!

Well, I suppose we can install them, we just can't use them for our guns in this state.

[DRSFEFA]

I got my pair of large Secure-its today. Very satisfied!

[Ken_In_Colo]

Wife got me one for Christmas after just a subtle hint.

[spc]

You will appreciate having it. Cable locking the box to the seat frame gives good added security and comfort.

spc