Extra ID kit for CCW?

[AMS MIKE]

Originally Posted by Norseman

B]The CCW is issued by local Police or Sheriff. The LE Dept. does not report the issuance of said CCW to either the DOJ or the DMV.[/b]

DMV is not notified. On the other hand....Absolutely DOJ is notified!

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

A [CA] CCW is a three part form, top copy (white) yours, second copy (pink) DOJ, third (yellow) issuing agency.

[Norseman]

I'll stand corrected on this then. I was not aware of the DOJ notification. Sorry for my mis-information. I was mis-advised by the local SO. However when my sife received her CCW from lolcal SO, she signed only one piece of paper, there were no pink or yellow pressure copies underneath it.

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by Norseman

If anyone thinks that LEO can confirm, or verify that you have a CCW permit through a cross-reference check; this is incorrect. The CCW is issued by local Police or Sheriff. The LE Dept. does not report the issuance of said CCW to either the DOJ or the DMV. There is no data base for collecting, and cross-referencing such data in CA. In a few states, there are.

By State Law it is collected in a data base EVERY year.

12053. (a) A record of the following shall be maintained in the
office of the licensing authority:
(1) The denial of a license.
(2) The denial of an amendment to a license.
(3) The issuance of a license.
(4) The amendment of a license.
(5) The revocation of a license.
(b) Copies of each of the following shall be filed immediately by
the issuing officer or authority with the Department of Justice:
(1) The denial of a license.
(2) The denial of an amendment to a license.
(3) The issuance of a license.
(4) The amendment of a license.
(5) The revocation of a license.
(c) Commencing on or before January 1, 2000, and annually
thereafter, each licensing authority shall submit to the Attorney
General the total number of licenses issued to peace officers,
pursuant to subparagraph (C) of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of
Section 12050, and to judges, pursuant to subparagraph (A) or (B) of
paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 12050. The Attorney
General shall collect and record the information submitted pursuant
to this subdivision by county and licensing authority.

It is then published here:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/...uances2007.pdf

Once a peace officer finds you have a CI number, he can cross checked and find a CCW on the DOJ system. This is not easy to do and does take a little work.

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by Norseman

However when my sife received her CCW from lolcal SO, she signed only one piece of paper, there were no pink or yellow pressure copies underneath it.

Her signature is only needed on the white. The other two are normally separated at that point.

[Norseman]

Greg, thanks for bringing me up to speed on this. I really try to stay current and up to date on my information.

12053. (a) A record of the following shall be maintained in the
office of the licensing authority.

I wonder if some of the northern rural counties actually put this information into a computer data base for their own use. Unless they have changed recently, my county just has them in a CCW file. They are placed alphabetically. If an LEO wanted verification, the clerk during regular bsuiness hours, or dispatcher outside of normal business hours, had to go to the file and do a hand search. I notice on my wife's CCW, her CII# and ORI# are filled in. But the space for a Local Agency # is blank.