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Old 04-24-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default XS "Big Dot" night sights

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The Original fast acquisition sight enhanced with our 24/7 Tritium rear sight.

XS 24/7 Express sights are the finest sights made for fast sight acquisition in all light conditions. Day Light, Half-Light, or Low-Light, just "dot the I". Fast, simple and effective. This is the ultimate self defense sight system that provides sights you can see around the clock.

* Enhances sight acquisition in all light conditions
* Ultimate "Flash Sight" picture
* Excels in high stress defensive situations
* Improves Low-Light accuracy
* Low profile, snag free design
* Available with Big Dot Tritium or Standard Dot Tritium front sight

Have any of you put these on a pistol and given them a try? What were your impressions?
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:57 PM
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I have a simular (Trijicon version) of it on my Kahr PM9. Works great. Faster target aquisition because you can see the front sight from a greater angle than standard sights.
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:18 PM
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I have heard more good about these sights than bad. However, I would still like to try before I buy.
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:32 AM
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I have heard more good about these sights than bad. However, I would still like to try before I buy.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:54 PM
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I'd like to get some for my PM9, but I had something similar on my Glock 21. It was a similar front site, but the rear was a ghost ring site. It's not a target site set-up, but very quick.
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:39 PM
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I just put a set of these on my Colt Government Pocketlight and I'm very pleased with them. They will take some getting used to, it seems that the dotting of the "i" is easy in the horizontal plane but I seem to consistently shoot it a bit high in the vertical plane during slow deliberate fire. I think this is because I haven't mentally standardized on how high my dot rides over my rear sight. However I'm more accurate with dynamic sight picture acquisition and my double-taps also appear to be better. That big white front dot really stands out!

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Yeah there good to go. Does not take as much effort to focus in on that huge front sight. Also much quicker acquisition.
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I have a simular (Trijicon version) of it on my Kahr PM9. Works great. Faster target aquisition because you can see the front sight from a greater angle than standard sights.
+1. I have the Trijocons on my carry guns (including a PM9) and love them! Plus, I put them on all my guns so I always have the same sight picture. Makes life easier and more accurate.
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If any of you have tactical tuperware and would like XS sights for them here is a video on installing them.

YouTube - XS Sight Install

It really is that simple. I did it without the video gave it the old college try and happy with the sights ever since.
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I just put a set of these on my Colt Government Pocketlight and I'm very pleased with them. They will take some getting used to, it seems that the dotting of the "i" is easy in the horizontal plane but I seem to consistently shoot it a bit high in the vertical plane during slow deliberate fire. I think this is because I haven't mentally standardized on how high my dot rides over my rear sight. However I'm more accurate with dynamic sight picture acquisition and my double-taps also appear to be better. That big white front dot really stands out!

Hey, what kind of impact does the fatter front sight have on holsters? is it negligible or did you have to do some work to get it to fit right?
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:53 AM
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Hey, what kind of impact does the fatter front sight have on holsters?
I'm using a generic pocket holster so there's no issue (Uncle Mike's sidekick size 3). OC Resident has a fitted leather pocket holster that the Novak sights jam up the draw a little. I would imagine the larger XS sight would further impede the draw as it is taller and wider. It would be important to pick a fitted leather holster that has a good sized sight channel.
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I have these sights on my Sig 245. If you are targeting COM targets or the larger bullseye targets they work just fine. For smaller targets the "lollipop" front sight was not meant for precise targeting because the front sight will be larger than the intended target. I have hear it explained as "is it a combat weapon or a target gun?" For low light conditions they are a big help, but mine are not luminous. Once you get past how big they appear, you will do just fine.
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I have a set on my carry gun... xd 5 in. 45acp... I LOVE THEM... like I loved my old 68 chevelle love... only I didn't sell my xd...

I find I can shoot just as accurately as with the stock sights and more accurately than I can the tru-glo tfo sights on my glocks... It is all a matter of knowing where to place the front sight, on the target, at what range...

close up, cover the target... it is a little difficut to put all of the rounds in the same hole at close range ala the national matches... but that wouldn't work too well on a goblin anyway... each shot different hole on goblins.. check... and it is basically a goblin gun...with the occasional cotton tail for the pot thrown in...

At 15 yards, put the top of the sight at 6 o'clock on what you want to hit... and it will be meat-in-the-pot....goblin on the ground etc....

At 50 yards, cover the target with the dot again....

They are very, very, very, stinkin' fast at close range... really...
The only set of sights I have that are as fast for my bi-focal eyes are a set on my Hi-power (yes it is minor caliber 9mm and it is belgum and yes I shoot it alot and had the slide cut for the sights... and has a funny accent with european ammo)... novak plain black rear - fiber optic front.

My wife has eye-dominence (sp?)(... dominated I know as I have been married 20 years).... issues and has trouble with the express sights on her compact XD... likes em well enough on my tactical gun though she says they take alot of getting used to... didn't for me... took to 'em like a fish to water... or a redneck to a pickup truck... whatever....
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I have a set on my carry gun... xd 5 in. 45acp... I LOVE THEM... like I loved my old 68 chevelle love... only I didn't sell my xd...

I find I can shoot just as accurately as with the stock sights and more accurately than I can the tru-glo tfo sights on my glocks... It is all a matter of knowing where to place the front sight, on the target, at what range...

close up, cover the target... it is a little difficut to put all of the rounds in the same hole at close range ala the national matches... but that wouldn't work too well on a goblin anyway... each shot different hole on goblins.. check... and it is basically a goblin gun...with the occasional cotton tail for the pot thrown in...

At 15 yards, put the top of the sight at 6 o'clock on what you want to hit... and it will be meat-in-the-pot....goblin on the ground etc....

At 50 yards, cover the target with the dot again....

They are very, very, very, stinkin' fast at close range... really...
The only set of sights I have that are as fast for my bi-focal eyes are a set on my Hi-power (yes it is minor caliber 9mm and it is belgum and yes I shoot it alot and had the slide cut for the sights... and has a funny accent with european ammo)... novak plain black rear - fiber optic front.

My wife has eye-dominence (sp?)(... dominated I know as I have been married 20 years).... issues and has trouble with the express sights on her compact XD... likes em well enough on my tactical gun though she says they take alot of getting used to... didn't for me... took to 'em like a fish to water... or a redneck to a pickup truck... whatever....
El Gato,
I realize this thread is long dead, maybe I should PM it.
I really like the concept and I even went so far as to remove a rear sight on
my g-22 to see if I like the concept. Poor man's Big Dot sight.

I do have some "accuracy" concerns which are probably unfounded.
I saw how much faster I was getting hits in the 7+ yard range with my "poor
man's big dot" glock. In the short ranges 3-7 yards etc ... I can see huge
advantage with the big dot.

My concern is the medium fighting ranges. 10-25 yards.
Can you hit the A-zone (8") or does the front sight completely cover
the A zone picture and you are just guessing? I'm debating the "big"
versus the "standard" dot size.

thanks
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:38 PM
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El Gato,
I realize this thread is long dead, maybe I should PM it.
I really like the concept and I even went so far as to remove a rear sight on
my g-22 to see if I like the concept. Poor man's Big Dot sight.

I do have some "accuracy" concerns which are probably unfounded.
I saw how much faster I was getting hits in the 7+ yard range with my "poor
man's big dot" glock. In the short ranges 3-7 yards etc ... I can see huge
advantage with the big dot.

My concern is the medium fighting ranges. 10-25 yards.
Can you hit the A-zone (8") or does the front sight completely cover
the A zone picture and you are just guessing? I'm debating the "big"
versus the "standard" dot size.

thanks
For me... Mr. Blind in one eye and can't see outa t'other- The big dot is just fine... with my xd I am getting a magazine into one ragged hole at 7 yards and out to 15, the groups are the same as if I had the stock sights... At 2-3 yards.. I run an exercise where I put a 1in paster on the target and shoot until the red is gone... that is tougher with the big dot as it completely covers the paster... I am used to sighting all of my guns in for a 6 o'clock hold with irons so when I move back to 15 the exercise actually becomes easier as MY gun shoots to the top of the front sight at about 15 yards... we are talking here about defensive shooting... minute-of-bad-guy not minute of angle... I have had no change of potential accuracy for slow fire and a tremendous increase in hits at "speed"... at this point the plan is to take the big dots to Thunder Ranch this summer to really get a work out with the xd and the sights....
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