Yes, I use the Otis Elite kit on all of my guns, long or hand. I like the cables too, but when I do have need for rods, I use Tipton one-piece carbon fiber rods (along with bore guides of course), very nice, worth every penny if you ask me. I prefer the stiffer Otis nylon brushes for the most part, but I use bronze brushes as well, just depends on what I'm cleaning and its condition.