Anyone own a Glock 30?

[akulahawk]

I have never shot any Glock in .45 ACP or GAP, however, I have shot 9mm and .40 S&W chambered versions... I own a G23. It is not pretty by any stretch, but it will get the job done and it is very easy to maintain. I also happen to be able to shoot them very well. Now then, I also own a Springfield 1911A-1. It also will get the job done. It's a no-frills gun as well. I shoot that almost as well as my Glock (we're talking <20 point difference out of 300). I suspect that if I were to shoot the same COF with my friend's Kimber, I'd equal the scores I can get with my Glock.

Knowing what I can do with my Glock, and that I like calibers starting with 4... I'd be quite happy with a Glock 30, if I were to ever acquire one.

[X-ffdo]

Originally Posted by 1buba

Are you KIDDING??? They're GLOCKS!

1buba......
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Your choice of weapons: Sidearms, Glocks, GI 1911, or customised highly accurised 1911 high end brand.
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[K-dog.v3]

Glock and AK-47

I know they will go bang everytime.

[BonoVox]

Originally Posted by X-ffdo

I have both the G-27 and G-23.
If you shot the G-27 with the pinkie extension, then the grip length of a G-23 is about the same length at the front edge of the grip, as the G-27.
The only difference is that the the G-23 will be about a half inch longer in the slide/barrel. If you can go to a gun shop and put them on top of each other you'll see the difference, as long as the G-27 has the Pierce +1 finger extension. Remember that the grip is the hard area to conceal.
With the Pierce +1 extension, in theory, you can have 10 rounds in the G-27 magazine.
In practice, with the Pierce +1 finger extension for the G-27, you will not be able to have 10, it will still accept only 9 rounds.
Pierce extensions are a farce!. You will have a nice finger rest, that's it!.
You will be unable to add the extra 1 round, even with the assist of a mag loader. I have 4, G-27 mags with the Pierce +1 extensions, to this date I have been unable to get the extra round in those mags. You can do all the tapping on your magazines you want! Plus the fact that those extensions retail for about $10.00, in round numbers, a piece. If you get a G-23 the 2 extensions costs that you would have blown in the extensions for a G-27 could go for an extra mag for a G-23. I spent $40.00 for 4 garbage G-27 magazines extensions, the cost of that could have been used to get another 2 extra mags for a G-23.
The G-23 normally carries 13 rounds and you will be able to carry 10 rounds easy in California. If you ever move to a free state, you'll be able to get the 13 rounders.
Back until around 1998, the FBI was issuing P-229s, after that approximate date, FBI class graduates were issued Glock-23s.
I have both and I am keeping them. If you are getting one, I'd consider the G-23 as # 1 choice and the G-27 as # 2. They are both about the same.
I simply hate to support manufactures of things that do not work, I am sure they are aware of it by now. I even sent them an E-mail...no response!.
They know!

Great post. That about covers it. I own a G23 and G26.

The M&P Compact I mentioned is between the two in size. But in 40S&W I feel the recoil of the M&P is much less than the G27. That being said, the best thing is to try to rent all of them and pick one out that works for you.

I must also add the more that I get used to shooting Sub Compacts the more I want to give the G27 another try. Heck you can't go wrong with any of the above mentioned.

[X-ffdo]

The S&W M&P is indeed a promising weapon, I think there is one in my future.....
After We have accumulated more of a positive historical record. In .45 ACP and in a compact frame!
All weapons have a historical evolutive period.......Then after they prove themselves, they......simply go up in price!
In a more serious note, I think Glock will come out with a fourth gen. model within a years time, away from the 2 by 4 design, and with a more ergonomic design. They have to react to the loss of business to S&W and SA.
In 10 years, plastic will reign and steel frames will be in the minority, much like wheel guns are now vs. pistols.
It is simply known as progress. Propeller driven airplanes gave way to jets, which will give way to Anti-gravity drives..etc. MagnitoHydraulicDrives, ( MHD). It is highly classified.....
"All the darkness in the universe, cannot put out the light of a single candle".....
Grasshopah....

[hygyliac]

I've owned both the 30 and the 36. The 30 was too wide for my hand so I carry the 36. My only complaint with the 36 was that I had to modify my grip because the extended magazine base was pinching my little finger. My favorite carry pistol is my Kimber Ultra Carry.

[X-ffdo]

Originally Posted by hygyliac

I've owned both the 30 and the 36. The 30 was too wide for my hand so I carry the 36. My only complaint with the 36 was that I had to modify my grip because the extended magazine base was pinching my little finger. My favorite carry pistol is my Kimber Ultra Carry.

Precisely why I don't like the magazine base plates on the Glocks 30-36.45ACP.
I do not know about the G-39 .45GAP yet. I would have to test drive it to see if I like it, see how it behaves, recoil characteristics, etc. Caliber wise it is better then the 9mm/.40 S&W because it is closer to the .45ACP. and very concealable. My understanding is that it is the same size as a G-26-27. That size weapon has a proven track record, and it is a winner!.
If that concept works in that caliber, then it would be a true pocket rocket launcher!

[SierraNevadaCCW]

Glock 23. Great gun...fires nice, accurate, reliable, light, conceals well...etc.

Better yet...Desert Eagle .50 on an ankle holster would be a great choice too.

[gmcem50]

I have a Glock 30.

[newshooterinca]

Got the 27. Shot it. Love it.

What a great shooter, and in .40 the recoil is less than half of my little 9mm Kahr PM9.

[X-ffdo]

I am leaning now in the direction of getting a Glock 38.
Same size as a Glock 23, shoots the .45GAP. 8+1
I "grew up" shooting .45s so it is like coming home. I just do not want to pack something heavy, I packed a 1911, Mark IV, series 70. for business, it was a great gun. Highly accurized (Jim Hoghe) and reliable bar none. It was just too heavy to pack.
After digging into the facts and data of that caliber, it makes sense for someone who carries a .40, to step up to a 45GAP, for packing purposes. Carrying a total of 9 rounds and having the conceal characteristics of a Glock 23 frame/ Glock 38, makes more sense. the bore is the same as a 45ACP. it is out of a 4 inch barrel to boot, ain't no doubt....not bad at all. I will continue my research!
The chamber pressure is sligthly higher than a .45ACP, 21,000psi VS. 23,000psi.
But if you look at a .40 and a 9mm, they are up to 35,000psi, higher pressure, quicker recoil. If you want to get real technical, I know, a lighter bullet will recoil less, (9mm)but in this case the pressure differential is high. So recoil should be better, not as snappy as a .40 S&W.
Now this is all theory....Need a test drive!....that will happen! Female Instructor has volunteered! She owns, I think, a copy of the different GAP guns, the G-37-38-39.
I may succumb to getting one before that, I have been known to do that!
I may really be a bad boy and get the 39 as well........
Revolution in paradise!!!!!
What say you?( Boeing just announced that their new Boeing 787, wil be built out of PLASTIC)

[X-ffdo]

By the way, I'd like to add that I also, as Akulahawk brought up, prefer calibers that start with a .4......for the record!

[kydave]

I started my Glocks with a model 19, because it immediately felt so comfortable in my hand. Turns out it pointed really well, too, and I used it in USPSA. I did OK even using minor caliber.

Until recently I had the 19, the 23 and the 30, which I got when it first hit the shelves in Northern CA. Unfortunately, it & I never bonded the way the 19 & 23 did. That little bit of extra thickness, combined with the grip not coming all the way down (where they, instead, used a tailpiece on the mag) just made it never feel quite right for my hand. Don't get me wrong - it shot great! Just didn't feel quite right.

You mentioned Kahr... Because I like .45ACP, I got one of the new Kahr P45 models and it really feels nice in my hand!

[X-ffdo]

Kydave.
May I suggest that you explore the Glock 38, it shoots the .45 GAP round. I have arrived at the conclusion that it is better to carry that, more so than a .40, taking nothing away from the .40, it just makes a bigger hole and it shoots with a lesser kick, everyone says it is very accurate. If you like the Glock 23, the Glock 38 is the same exact frame and dimensions as a Glock 23.
If you can get above the banter and negativity from some guys in the internet who are bad mouthing that round because it is not a .45ACP. It is what it is, a .45 caliber you can carry in a 9mm/.40 frame, like a Glock 23. If you could put the ACP in that frame I would tell anyone, "get it". It ain't so, so the next best thing is the Glock 38 with the GAP round. Ballistics are nearly the same, less snappiness then a .40, in a 9mm/.40 frame that is easier to pack every day. 8+1 capacity......What else a person needs? You also have a smaller brother, the Glock 39, same size as the Glock 26/27, it packs 6+1.
I did not get the Glock 30 because of the magazine issue you pointed out.
I have a Glock 23, it is very ergonomical. I think from the looks of it, the Glock 38 will be the next one for me.
I will probably at some point will end up with an "O" frame to replace my 40 years old gun that "went". (...GET A JOB, JOE!... I can't find one!.. ) Just for sentimental reasons, not for carry. Old stuff.
I have the right to change my opinion.
Female instructor has all 3 GAP guns and she seems to like them. I always factor in the source of information when I form an opinion, people in the know get my attention, your mileage will vary, the ones I think are BSrs don't get mentioned. I have not personally experienced shooting this handgun.
Test drive before you buy!
Let me know what happens, every day above ground is a good day!

[akulahawk]

One of these days I'll have to try out a G38 myself. Just as a side thought... it might be interesting to have the same shooter compare the G19, G23, G32, and G38... and write a description of how each feels while shooting it.