Police confiscated my shotgun I loaned out..

[xmustanguyx]

Originally Posted by El Gato

You did not loan him your 15 round magazine... read PC 12020 if you have questions about loaning hi-cap magazines...

If they are his... he might need a lawyer... I find it hard to get the local DA to prosecute people for possession of hi-caps and proving transfer in violation of 12020 is a very complicated matter... if they confiscated the hi-caps... he needs to politely and firmly ask the Sgt. to have them returned..they are after all HIS hi-cap magazines that he purchased prior to the law going into effect....?

Yeah, that's what i told him... I don't ever take my hi caps out unless i'm by myself..i'm paranoid that way. Even on my AR-15.

[EM2]

Perhaps I have a silly question here, but what prompted the LEOs to look into the registration of the guns & the pessetion of the high cap mags?

If this is not priveledged information, I should like to avoid these types of circumstances. For instance if you are target shooting at a range why would law enforcement even come over and get in your buisness?

Considering all the crazy laws these days it would seem to easy to slip up somewhere and not know it.

[sholling]

Originally Posted by EM2

Perhaps I have a silly question here, but what prompted the LEOs to look into the registration of the guns & the pessetion of the high cap mags?

Just a wild guess on my part but the sight of the mere mortals with high caps is likely to prompt an investigation. Especially by a younger officer. That's why my perfectly legal grandfathered mags do not leave my home. Once the ball has started rolling they will run every serial number just on general principals. Then it's just up to the officers' mood and personality whether or not they confiscate some or all of what's there or even make an arrest for perfectly legal mags and that's a crap shoot.

[RomanDad]

Possession of Hi Cap mags is not against the law.... What gun were they for?
Call Bruce

[Greg-Dawg®]

I can't wait to hear this unfold.

Note to self: My guns are my guns.

[RomanDad]

Originally Posted by Greg-Dawg®

I can't wait to hear this unfold.

Note to self: My guns are my guns.

Im an only child... I never learned how to share.

[xmustanguyx]

Originally Posted by EM2

Perhaps I have a silly question here, but what prompted the LEOs to look into the registration of the guns & the pessetion of the high cap mags?

If this is not priveledged information, I should like to avoid these types of circumstances. For instance if you are target shooting at a range why would law enforcement even come over and get in your buisness?

Considering all the crazy laws these days it would seem to easy to slip up somewhere and not know it.

they were skeet and target shooting at a friends house in the country and they said that there was 30 complaints about them shoot. Never had this happended before. Also, i was not there. The officers responding said that they had a hard time finding them since it was so far out in the country which leads me to believe who complained in the first place?
His nearest neighbor is about a mile down and he was was there too.
It was for a beretta 9mm for the mags question. They didn't notice them until
they were leaving and decided to take as an afterthought. They took his beretta too, saying it was not registered to anyone just like the shotguns.

[xmustanguyx]

Originally Posted by sholling

That's why my perfectly legal grandfathered mags do not leave my home.

that's how i roll too!

[xmustanguyx]

Originally Posted by RomanDad

Possession of Hi Cap mags is not against the law.... What gun were they for?
Call Bruce

9mm beretta.

[RomanDad]

Originally Posted by xmustanguyx

they were skeet and target shooting at a friends house in the country and they said that there was 30 complaints about them shoot. Never had this happended before. Also, i was not there. The officers responding said that they had a hard time finding them since it was so far out in the country which leads me to believe who complained in the first place?
His nearest neighbor is about a mile down and he was was there too.
It was for a beretta 9mm for the mags question. They didn't notice them until
they were leaving and decided to take as an afterthought. They took his beretta too, saying it was not registered to anyone just like the shotguns.

so Did you call them today????

[xmustanguyx]

Well, i called to stan county this morning. Got the runaround until i spoke to the father of a girl I graduated with. He's a sargeant over there. His take on it was why did he take it in the first place. Why take one and not the other.
Also, why didn't the LEO know that shotguns don't keep paperwork on them after the sale.
I have to call tomorrow since waterford is a contract city and they haven't transferred property to Modesto until later on. I left my number with the gal in property, she was nice but didn't know much about gun laws regarding the registration of shotguns.
She too didn't know why the officer would take one "unregistered" shotgun and leave the other "unregistered" one there.
I am trying to call the officer tonight when he comes on. His name is
Houtchens.
Will update when hear more!

[xmustanguyx]

Tried calling Waterford dispatch, he's not currently on shift is what I was told.
Well, I guess I'll try until he is! I'm at work all night...

[El Gato]

Originally Posted by xmustanguyx

It was for a beretta 9mm for the mags question.
They took his beretta too, saying it was not registered to anyone just like the shotguns.

Someone said to call Bruce... Like in the morning is my thought... get my beretta back.... and what crime did they commit to seize the guns as evidence... the law requires me to take guns under certain circs. but I always have discretion otherwise... As an FTO I try to tell my trainees to make sure they have the law down pat before they confiscate and then to leave a written receipt just like the dept. policy says... do it by the book ....

Speaking as a LEO type guy... I'm embarrassed

[damjo]

You need to call and ask to talk to a supervisor or the watch commander.

Since they took the guns they had to write a report. The report number should be on the receipt. Call records for a copy of the report. Most reports are public record unless they fall into certain criteria, Domestic violence.

A supervisor can review the report and tell you what happened and how to proceed.

[CalCCW03]

It seems the original poster's questions have been answered. As shotguns can not be considered CCW weapons I am closing this thread.