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Old 04-28-2008, 02:37 PM
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I just had lunch with "A Guy". He will have 3 of them tomorrow. The fixed sight and night sight are sold. The only one still for sale is the adjustable sight one.

The are on allocation from the factory, he could only get one of each. He's not sure if he can get anymore. in the near future. Better contact him if you want one from this shipment or the next one.
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I just had lunch with "A Guy". He will have 3 of them tomorrow. The fixed sight and night sight are sold. The only one still for sale is the adjustable sight one.

The are on allocation from the factory, he could only get one of each. He's not sure if he can get anymore. in the near future. Better contact him if you want one from this shipment or the next one.

Thanks for the update Mark!
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A new GLOCK? How could one resist?
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I sure as hell couldn't. I fondled mine yesterday
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How? A new Glock in the same caliber, size and weight as a Kimber Ultra CDP? I wonder if Kimber could lower the CDP weight by using some plastic?
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How? A new Glock in the same caliber, size and weight as a Kimber Ultra CDP? I wonder if Kimber could lower the CDP weight by using some plastic?
Possibly, but they couldn't get it approved in CA.
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How? A new Glock in the same caliber, size and weight as a Kimber Ultra CDP? I wonder if Kimber could lower the CDP weight by using some plastic?
Maybe. Aluminum is about 2.81 g/cc. Glock uses a cusom nylon 6 blend, it's somewhere in the range of 1.24 g/cc. But straight Nylon 6 has a yield strenght of about 12000-13000 psi (it's safe to assume Glock's formula is better than that). Crappy sand cast 356 T6 aluminum yields at 24,000, and machined 7075 T6 (like Kimber uses) yields at 67,000 psi

So nylon's density is lower, but the strength for any given weight is much better for aluminum. Which is lighter in the final application depends on what constraints you're engineering to.
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Maybe. Aluminum is about 2.81 g/cc. Glock uses a cusom nylon 6 blend, it's somewhere in the range of 1.24 g/cc. But straight Nylon 6 has a yield strenght of about 12000-13000 psi (it's safe to assume Glock's formula is better than that). Crappy sand cast 356 T6 aluminum yields at 24,000, and machined 7075 T6 (like Kimber uses) yields at 67,000 psi

So nylon's density is lower, but the strength for any given weight is much better for aluminum. Which is lighter in the final application depends on what constraints you're engineering to.
That reminds me....

Q: What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers?
A: Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.
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A: Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.


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Sigh... I want one. I need a better job first, though.
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Possibly, but they couldn't get it approved in CA.
Ultra CDP in .45
length: 6 3/4in
width: 1 1/4in
height: 4 3/4in
weight: 25oz

Glock 30sf in .45
length: 6 3/4in
width: 1 1/4in
height: 4 3/4in
weight: 24oz

Looks like plastic saved an ounce.
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Ultra CDP in .45
length: 6 3/4in
width: 1 1/4in
height: 4 3/4in
weight: 25oz

Glock 30sf in .45
length: 6 3/4in
width: 1 1/4in
height: 4 3/4in
weight: 24oz

Looks like plastic saved an ounce.
Considering a round of .45 weighs about 3/4 of an ounce...
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I was just informed that TWO of these guns will be at range night tonight. A Guy still has one left.

Oh, and yes I know what thread this is.
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Small detail, G-30SF 8+1 round. K- CDP II 7+1. So Glock will be still slightly heavier, with an extra one to pop.
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