.327 Federal Magnum

[1buba]

New cartridge. Only gun I see it currently chambered in (though I didn't look much) is the Ruger SP-101.

The new .327 Federal Magnum offers muzzle energy twice that of .38 Special +P loads, and velocities comparable to a 125-grain .357 Magnum, with 20 percent less recoil in its hottest version. Designed specifically for use in lightweight small-frame revolvers, the .327 Federal Magnum allows a six-round cylinder compared to five-round capacity for similar-sized .38 Special and .357 Magnum guns, with the added benefit of chambering .32 S&W, .32 Special, and .32 H&R Magnum loads as well.

Some interesting possibilities if the bullets perform well. Might be an excellent cartridge for a J-frame. Only time will tell on true terminal performance though.

[Dutchman]

In terms of a self defense round, I think it's a solution in search of a problem. I think in a longer barrel, say 6 inch, it might make a fantastic varmint round (kind of like a reloadable 22mag on steroids.

I think ammo might be rare and expensive enough to relegate this to handloading. Bad mojo for ccw.

If ruger comes out with a single six or sp101 with a long barrel, I'm all over it. I'll pass on this cartridge for SD. One small niche it might fill is for the recoil averse who wants 6 shots in a small revolver package that gets one more shot than a 38 j frame.

[1buba]

Originally Posted by Dutchman

In terms of a self defense round, I think it's a solution in search of a problem. I think in a longer barrel, say 6 inch, it might make a fantastic varmint round (kind of like a reloadable 22mag on steroids.

I think ammo might be rare and expensive enough to relegate this to handloading. Bad mojo for ccw.

If ruger comes out with a single six or sp101 with a long barrel, I'm all over it. I'll pass on this cartridge for SD. One small niche it might fill is for the recoil averse who wants 6 shots in a small revolver package that gets one more shot than a 38 j frame.

That's what I was thinking. However, the .32-20 Win, which is less powerful than this round, was a popular round in sillywet. Knocking over those rams was NOT easy. lol I never shot it, but knew a few guys that did.

[El Gato]

My first thought is that they re-invented the 32-20 Hi velocity load...Which is a great load by the way. I have shot original HI Vel. loads and they are much hotter than anything coming out of any factory in this day and time. My 32-20 rifle was purchased off an elderly person who poached deer off of a local ranch with it for about 30 years until he got too elderly....yeah poached..

I have a 32-20 Colt revolver too... my handloads can do 2400 fps for an 85 gr HP out of the model 92 rifle... I won't shoot them in the colt... If I had an sp101 in 327 mag.... well it would do about the same speed I imagine... just in a brass case that is easier to reload and with better bullets from the factory.

To me, it sounds like a great orthopedic gun for those with hand conditions that will not allow them to take great amounts of recoil...and it is new and that is always a reason to buy a new gun...

[RAD-G27]

I love the comment in their add, "But today, with 48 of our 50 states allowing some form of citizen concealed handgun carry." More like 40 out of 50 allowing, with 8 just allowing to the select few (depending on county of course).

[1buba]

LOL -I've known a couple of those old guys... They were pre-DFG and were sure the laws weren't for them. One that lived up near Union Valley Lake was even known by the local rangers. The agent acknowledged that he knew the old guy poached a few dear each year, but also knew that it was a key portion of his survival.

Bottom line is, we could be fine from now on with NO new cartridge offerings, but what fun would that be? When i saw the comparison to 32-20, I started thinking about the sillywet guys that LOVE the cartridge and would have another gun or two to play with. It also got me to thinking about the new bullet technology. That seems to be the place that we are making the most headway with ammo. Not many new powders, same old cases, only some are longer or shorter. Just new technology in bullets. Look at the new offerings in the Ranger T stuff, the new Leverlution stuff. Seems to me that a great area for R&D might be bullets that perform better at handgun velocities for rifle calibers... But that would probably be another thread.

Originally Posted by El Gato

My first thought is that they re-invented the 32-20 Hi velocity load...Which is a great load by the way. I have shot original HI Vel. loads and they are much hotter than anything coming out of any factory in this day and time. My 32-20 rifle was purchased off an elderly person who poached deer off of a local ranch with it for about 30 years until he got too elderly....yeah poached..

I have a 32-20 Colt revolver too... my handloads can do 2400 fps for an 85 gr HP out of the model 92 rifle... I won't shoot them in the colt... If I had an sp101 in 327 mag.... well it would do about the same speed I imagine... just in a brass case that is easier to reload and with better bullets from the factory.

To me, it sounds like a great orthopedic gun for those with hand conditions that will not allow them to take great amounts of recoil...and it is new and that is always a reason to buy a new gun...

[El Gato]

Originally Posted by 1buba

Just new technology in bullets. Look at the new offerings in the Ranger T stuff, the new Leverlution stuff. Seems to me that a great area for R&D might be bullets that perform better at handgun velocities for rifle calibers... But that would probably be another thread.

The little hollow points made for the 32 mag... pushed to 1800 fps+ make great "varmit grenades".... better than the .223 at short range!... put that same speed on an xtp with a slightly heavier jacket and you could get some penetration and expansion... maybe an x bullet?... keep the recoil light for the recoil sensitive... put it in the s&w J frame with the scandium...nice little pocket rocket!

[Dutchman]

Originally Posted by El Gato

The little hollow points made for the 32 mag... pushed to 1800 fps+ make great "varmit grenades".... better than the .223 at short range!... put that same speed on an xtp with a slightly heavier jacket and you could get some penetration and expansion... maybe an x bullet?... keep the recoil light for the recoil sensitive... put it in the s&w J frame with the scandium...nice little pocket rocket!

Or a five shot scadnium I frame that would be about the size of a darringer for ccw. I would still LOVE to see this in a single six with long barrel along with a lever action carbine to go along with it. That would make for great fun for SASS, varminting, and just plain fun.

[1buba]

Originally Posted by Dutchman

Or a five shot scadnium I frame that would be about the size of a darringer for ccw. I would still LOVE to see this in a single six with long barrel along with a lever action carbine to go along with it. That would make for great fun for SASS, varminting, and just plain fun.

You said MUCH better what i was thinking. It just seems like it has a lot of possibility. As far as marketing - who knows. lol