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Old 03-02-2008, 12:40 AM
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Default Ruger LCP .380

I'm in the market for a .380 to use as a pocket gun when I get my permit. Does anyone know if the new Ruger is going to be sold in CA? The reviews look really good, and they are tiny.
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:25 AM
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AFAIK its not going on the CA DOJ.

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Old 03-02-2008, 09:00 AM
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I was told at the SHOT show that it's not going to be CA approved. There's a lot of interest in the gun. I've read on a couple of different sites that 27,000 have already been pre-ordered. That seems like a lot, not sure if I believe that number or not.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:52 AM
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If it's as reliable as early reports indicate, and it's priced and sized like the Kel-Tec, I can easily see a lot of em moving through the doors. I just wish we could get em here, it looks like a great BUG.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:07 AM
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welcome to California, were our government goes to great lengths to protect us from ourselves. how could you think of getting a gun thats not approved after all they are doing it for your protection!
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:13 PM
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Ruger will ship...eventually...
A lot of cops will hear about it...
A lot of cops will buy it, especially if it works better than the kel-tec and is smaller....
Used guns will eventually filter into the market...eventually...by ones and twos....
Silly law...
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:48 PM
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Ruger will ship...eventually...
A lot of cops will hear about it...
A lot of cops will buy it, especially if it works better than the kel-tec and is smaller....
Used guns will eventually filter into the market...eventually...by ones and twos....
Silly law...

Are you saying that the cops are exempt from the law???
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Are you saying that the cops are exempt from the law???
That particular law - yes.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:54 PM
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What happens if a cop buys a firearm under that exemption, then resigns from the force?
Is he required to get rid of the firearm
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What happens if a cop buys a firearm under that exemption, then resigns from the force?
Is he required to get rid of the firearm
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Are you saying that the cops are exempt from the law???
And when we are looking forward to retirement, and we are gun LOONIES... like me... we look to build the gun budget so's we can buy everything and every magazine we might want for after we retire....which keeps me working so that I can afford stuff...I wish M1A magazines were cheaper...and if only Ruger would build some hi-cap mini30 mags... I guess I'll have to stick around awhile....
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OK
As you can tell by my previous post I am against laws that exempt certain classes of people.
But can you tell me why if CA DOJ will not list a certain firearm because it is presumably "unsafe", then why would they let LEOs buy them? Would this not open law enforment agencies to law suits when there are accidental discharges and someone is injured? A lawyer may assume the accident was due to an "unsafe" firearm. And an uninformed jury may just rule against them.
This question is mostly just academic because I know that they are doing this specifically to separate the people and promote misinformation.
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Liberals in general believe that somehow law enforcement officers are magically immune to anything bad that might happen with a gun, so they don't need the motherly protections of the "Safe Handgun List." I've personally heard several of them say that "Anyone who wants to own a gun who isn't a policeman or in the military must be some kind of nut."

This law looks to have been written with that same mentality. As a bonus, it further concentrates power into the hands of the government who can then protect you.
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As you can tell by my previous post I am against laws that exempt certain classes of people.
But can you tell me why if CA DOJ will not list a certain firearm because it is presumably "unsafe", then why would they let LEOs buy them? Would this not open law enforment agencies to law suits when there are accidental discharges and someone is injured? A lawyer may assume the accident was due to an "unsafe" firearm. And an uninformed jury may just rule against them.
This question is mostly just academic because I know that they are doing this specifically to separate the people and promote misinformation.
I agree the law shouldn't exempt some and disallow others...
Having said that, I can only deal with what is... not what I want it to be..

RE:unsafe firearms... the law said it is "not unsafe" if it is on the list... that is how agencies can buy off list guns... they aren't unsafe...they just have not been certified as not-unsafe..... I wish some lawyer would go after a large agency that issues off-list guns... just to get the agencies on board with our disgust with the law....
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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Liberals in general believe that somehow law enforcement officers are magically immune to anything bad that might happen with a gun, so they don't need the motherly protections of the "Safe Handgun List." I've personally heard several of them say that "Anyone who wants to own a gun who isn't a policeman or in the military must be some kind of nut."

This law looks to have been written with that same mentality. As a bonus, it further concentrates power into the hands of the government who can then protect you.

I think you need to research this issue a little bit more. Liberals would love to disarm LEO's and it has already been proposed in the past by liberal legislators. If it were up them LEO's would be using batons and pepper spray.
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