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Old 04-07-2007, 10:11 PM
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Question Anyone shot / carried S&W 625-10 45ACP

Wow, for those into wheel guns this one is pretty neat! S&W 625-10 Performance Center 45ACP 6-shot revolver. I saw one at the Fowler gun room today. It has a white dot front sight and a trench in the top of the backstrap for a rear sight. Points nice (as one would expect a larger gun to do). I would have to go after that hammer like I did with my Agent if it were to come into my inventory.



Video of it in action:

Smith & Wesson 625-10 Video

6 shots of 45ACP via moon clips is an interesting alternative for carry in a non-slide based package. It's an N-frame gun so it's probably too big for pocket carry but it might ride nice on the belt? It's also terribly light (SCandium or Ti, not sure?) which is good when you're not pulling the trigger, but I suspect it won't want to follow up on the second shot without a lot of practice. I have a feeling I would dig holes in the ground shooting in anticipation of the jump.

Has anyone put one of these through it's paces? There's no record of it on the S&W site. First glimpse though normal channels came up empty. Maybe it's an older gun? The internet seems a bit shy on info on this pistol. But it does come up on the DOJ list:

625-10 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Revolver 2" .45 ACP 11/6/2007

I suspect it also migth be difficult to come up with a rig for it because the barrel sits so far back in the frame.

Glocktalk thread I just found on the 625-10

turns out S&W does have a holster (DeSantis) for it. Available with or w/o thumb break. Check out how the belt line lines up with the barrel!



Here's a little shooting data on it from a post on 'The High Road'

Win 185gr FMJ
Avg Velocity 778.95 fps
STD DEV 17.11
Energy 249.31 ft-lbs

Fed 165gr Hydra-shok JHP PD45HS3H
Avg Velocity 886.39 fps
STD DEV 27.96
Energy 287.93 ft-lbs

Rem 185gr Golden Saber JHP +P
Avg Velocity 1019.58 fps
STD DEV 18.49
Energy 427.14 ft-lbs

Corbon 165GR JHP +P
Avg Velocity 1082.73 fps
STD DEV 30.31
Energy 429.62 ft-lbs

Full write up is here

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Old 04-07-2007, 10:21 PM
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What barrel? That thing puts the snub in snubby.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:48 AM
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Nice post inboost. You are quiet the perfectionist it seems.
I am pretty sure I fiddled with it somewhere. I believe it was at the SHOT Show in Orlando, but I am not 100% certain. One thing I am certain about is that I never shot one. In case you buy it, shoot me a PM.
It's about twice the thickness of a 1911 or a P7, which would make it bulky and hard to conceal for me.
There is also people out there who think a .45CP bullet out of a 3 Inch barrel will fall to the ground 5 feet from the muzzle due to lack of velocity. I am glad you included chronograh data in yor post so we don't have to go down that round again, considering the fact that we are talking 2 inches here.
Thanks again for an excellent post. Glad to have you on board.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:47 AM
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Glock32,

Yes I would agree that it's got quite a bit of width to it at the cylinder. However, it's thinner than the 1911 platform at the barrel and frame area. I was curious if the cylinder 'chunk' vs. the rest of the gun was an even trade-off or still a problem. Only those who carry such a beast would know for sure, and this would require careful selection of a rig to hold it. Considering it's a rare gun to begin with I don't think we'll hear anything to attest to these kinds of details. Then again you never know?

Of course, as nice as moon clips are for revolver reloads, I'm sure that unless there was a lot of time spent practising the reload process that the autoloader will always recharge faster in the hands of your average CCWer (read that as NOT Jerry Miculek).

The presentation of the 625-10 with shuch a short 'external' barrel might outdo the autoloader as it would take less time to clear the carry rig (in theory). I'm sure that this would only prove out under the most experienced and talented of pistol shooters so it wouldn't apply to me

Unfortunatley I'm always drawn to things that are outside of the normal envelope, it's a definate character flaw of mine. It is entirely possible that I might own the 625-10 some day and have to report back here myself!

Harry,

I saw it in another post somewhere else so I can't take credit for the term: This is actually a 'Stub Nosed' revolver! Couldn't think of a better name for it!

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Old 04-09-2007, 12:46 PM
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I emailed S&W and got this reply:

We manufactured approx 850 of this model back in 2004.

The closest thing in current production would be the 325PD in 2 3/4"


Or the 327 in .357 (8-shot!)
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:58 PM
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325PH ha, what a nice looking revolver.
I hope you will buy one soon. Can't wait to fiddle with it. May want to check if it's on the approved list for sale in Ca.

Edit: Good news.
325PD / Alloy, Titanium and Stainless Steel Revolver 2.75" .45 ACP 8/10/2007

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Old 04-09-2007, 02:42 PM
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That 325PD might be interesting, especially with a bobbed hammer. Commonality among ammo in carry guns would be very nice. Hmmmm......
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That 325PD might be interesting, especially with a bobbed hammer. Commonality among ammo in carry guns would be very nice. Hmmmm......
I saw one of the 325PDs at Turners the other night. If I remember correctly I think it's an N-Frame and was pretty large. That thing would be crazy if it was a J-Frame like the 340PD!
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:59 PM
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I saw one of the 325PDs at Turners the other night. If I remember correctly I think it's an N-Frame and was pretty large. That thing would be crazy if it was a J-Frame like the 340PD!
A .45 revolvr can not be built on a J-frame. There are people who own 5 sot K-frame .45 auto revolvers. They are very rare as far as I can tell.
I have seen one in Switzerland about 20 years ago. The cylinder was made by a competent gunsmith. The extractor, same thing. Price, but nice.

The 345 is built on the N-frame. To my knowledge the only attempt S&W ever made to build a five shot big bore was their 44 Spl. on the L-frame platform.The thing did not sell so they dropped it. I wish I would have bought one.
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The 345 is built on the N-frame. To my knowledge the only attempt S&W ever made to build a five shot big bore was their 44 Spl. on the L-frame platform.The thing did not sell so they dropped it. I wish I would have bought one.
Is that the 696? If so, I have one. It's one of my favorite revolvers. I love the 44 spl cartridge. Big holes without the punishing recoil.
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:02 PM
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OK, so I went and handled this enigma a little more, and lucky me, was permitted to document the experience a-la digi-cam. BTW the front sight is NOT tritium, it's a hole drilled and then painted white like it's ready for a vial (perhaps an option from the PC)?









As you can see it's large and in charge but somehow suggests it might just carry. Look at the bottom shot of the gun, the cylinder isn't much wider than the grips. I have pretty big hands, so don't let the photos fool you, it's a BIG gun.

On that note it also comes with a full size set of Hogue rubber grips and a Perfomance Center badged nylon gun rug which would also hold the 500! This gun would float from end to end in that bag. Not sure why they included it ?

The fact that it's a rare model futher suggests a bad choice as gun leather will be difficult to come by. I'm also pretty convinced that if you need to reload you're not in a good place even though it's got moon clips. There's too much wasted motion compared to the elegance of the autoloader reload.

Here's at least one guy who likes to carry a revolver like it (one in every crowd, right?):

"AirBoss" replys to a few others on "The High Road":
"This is my main carry gun.It started life as a 5"625 now a 21/2".It will group better than I can hold out to 25 yards,but I still can keep all 6 in the "A"zone of a IDPA target at 25 yards.However,if I have 25 yard head start on a BG even as old and fat as I am I think I can out run him.It took a little adjusting after the trigger job to get the spring weight right so it will fire every time.But now it will eat anything and fires first time everytime.Weigh is not really a problem I carry in a Wild Bill On the Belt holster with a 11/2" horse hide belt.This thing is great as there is no/little recoil I can dump 6 rounds as fast if not faster than a 1911 and they all (at 7 yards)stay grouped in one ragged hole.Reloads are relitively quick with moon clips.However if I am in a situation where 6 rounds of hydro shock doesnt do it for me perhaps I shoud have brought a different gun.Thing thing I do like about it is,there has never been a ftf or fte just boom.boom ,boom,boom,boom,boom"
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Nice pictures sir. thank you very much.
I still say the 345PD is the better choice. It just looks meaner....
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Is that the 696? If so, I have one. It's one of my favorite revolvers. I love the 44 spl cartridge. Big holes without the punishing recoil.

Yes indeed it is. Thank you. I could not remember the model number and was too lazy to look it up.
I need to get one soon. I love that revolver.
Now that we all started talking about revolvers I think I need to buy that second generation Detective Special that somebody offered me. I love wheelguns.
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:38 AM
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My only problem with the 325PD are the sights. They seem very tall for a carry gun. The rear sight looks especially dangerous to me, the thin blade looks just about right to slice some bacon off my ribcage!

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Old 04-10-2007, 09:38 PM
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Whoa, the guys at Cylinder and Slide work magic, including on such a set of sights:



Webpage on these sights

My take on it would be:

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