Airport Theft of Firearms

[GunSlut]

Missing Handguns At Airports Alarm National Security Experts

Handguns, stored in luggage, have been disappearing from some major airports, including here at Sea-Tac.

That means, firearms, and at times, ammunition are loose in secure areas with direct access to passenger jets.

KIRO Team 7 Investigator Chris Halsne exposes new security lapses in his special report Access to Steal.

TEAM 7 INVESTIGATION

VIDEO: Firearms Disappearing From Luggage

If you want to take your .357 Magnum revolver from Seattle on vacation with you (to say) Los Angeles, airlines allow it, but it has to go into the belly of the jet along with your luggage. However, KIRO Team 7 Investigators discover that criminals on the tarmac just might nab it before it arrives at its destination.

It's fair to say Ben Peterson is comfortable around guns. He grew up hunting and recently spent a tour in Iraq as a medic for the 7th Marines.

The last time he flew from Seattle home to Omaha, all his luggage arrived just fine, but there was an empty hole in one of his cases.

Peterson told Investigative Reporter Chris Halsne, “The pistol was just flat out gone!”

Police reports show Peterson was missing a compact 9 millimeter Taurus and 15 round clip, which disappeared after Peterson handed the locked weapon to TSA employees for a special luggage inspection.
He lost a lot of sleep worrying about who stole it and what it would be used for. Then a call came from a King County detective.

“It surprised me. I was extremely shocked. The idea that it had gone to being taken at an airport to used in a gang shooting in a period of four months or so,” said Peterson.

Detectives tell KIRO Team 7 Investigators a known gang member named Matalepuna Malu was nabbed a few blocks away from a "shots fired/fight" call at an apartment complex in White Center. Malu had Ben Peterson's still-warm gun under his seat.

Detective Ben Wheeler of the King County Sheriff's Department explains how a gun gets from luggage and Sea-Tac Airport into the hands of a criminal like Malu.

“Gang members will go and look for them specifically to use them in crimes or intimidations or shootings with other gangsters-- they do flow. They (the stolen guns) move quickly from hand to hand,” said Wheeler.

Malu is sitting in jail right now, guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm. Who stole the gun from airport luggage remains unsolved, but KIRO Team 7 Investigators uncovered that this is not an isolated case.

We found five weapons reported taken from luggage at Sea-Tac in three years.

Police records show that (now -fired) Alaska Airlines baggage handler Vincent Hereld Young stole some Beretta pistols.

During an unrelated police matter, he got caught with them weeks later, confessing he just "covered the (gun) case with his coat -- placed it inside his personal tote bag -- and after work walked across the street."

Port of Seattle Police Captain Ken Irwin admits he is concerned about disappearing weapons.

“Yes. We do have issues or times where weapons that have been declared have ended up missing when the bag gets to its destination,” said Irwin.

But Irwin adds, airport police are looking at beefing up security, not only because of reports of missing handguns, but also the thousands of other thefts from luggage.

“We're looking at the cameras right now. We have added search patrols in the area. When the officers have time they go down and enhance patrols in the ramp areas down below, particularly where the bags are handled and stored.”

Finding out exactly how many handguns are missing from luggage after they were checked into secure areas of airports nationwide has been a challenge.

So far, KIRO Team 7 Investigators tracked at least 34 handguns presumed stolen, including 10 guns missing from LAX in Los Angeles, three in Portland, three in Tampa, and two each in San Antonio and Chicago O'Hare. Oakland, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and Washington D.C. Dulles and Ronald Reagan airports reported thieves stealing handguns in secure areas of the airport as well.

The Department of Homeland Security has a database of all gun theft reports for all airports, but so far has refused to provide us with it. Justice Department sources tell us it contains more than 100 reports filed since 9/11.

National security experts Robert Ramsey and Mark Solomon are alarmed by our findings, agreeing “there's obviously a problem.”

They say terrorists are patient. It means nothing for them to work a job inside an airport for years, or to pay a criminal with access lots of money to stash a weapon inside secure areas.

Ramsey was candid about the potential national security threat.

“If I was going to mount an operation against an aircraft -- that's where I'd be looking.”

Theft victim Ben Peterson wonders when airport security will wake up to that potential threat.

“Given the level of security exercises at airports, I expected, between that conveyer belt and loading it into the aircraft, there would be better measures in place,” said Peterson.

Federal rules indicate gun owners should lock their weapon cases before they go on a passenger jet. However, we found in dozens of reports that TSA employees asked gun owners to leave one side of their case unlocked, so they could slide some paperwork inside.

[THE Gimper]

Federal rules indicate gun owners should lock their weapon cases before they go on a passenger jet. However, we found in dozens of reports that TSA employees asked gun owners to leave one side of their case unlocked, so they could slide some paperwork inside.

Stupid! The law says it's supposed to be locked, and you are the only person allowed to retain the key. If anyone needs to open the case, they have to come get you. If a TSA agent asks you to leave it unlocked, he is asking you to break the law. Do you think he's going to be the one charged? It's your responsibility. Never leave it unlocked. Even if a TSA agent asks you to leave it unlocked, the answer is, "No."

I have often travelled with my firearms, and have found one TSA agent will tell you one thing, and another will tell you something else. It sometimes seems like they're just making it up on the fly. Know the rules. Print them out from the TSA website. Take them with you. If a TSA agent asks you to do something that violates the rules ask for a supervisor.

[tikifrei]

It sounds to me like someone wants them to ban flying with guns.......

My take is that if baggage handlers are in a position where national security can be threatened by their actions, maybe they need to have a much tougher screening when they are hired. Also the idea of additional security in so-called secure areas is a must.

I know a guy who was told that they could not find his rifle case and when he refused to back down and picked up his phone to call the police....they magically found his rifle case......funny how that works sometimes.

[Hoser]

It happens a lot, even here at OC airport. If they want your gun and the case is locked, they'll take the entire case.

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by Hoser

It happens a lot, even here at OC airport. If they want your gun and the case is locked, they'll take the entire case.

Then every case I checked had a Wilson in it.

[99sparks]

Originally Posted by Hoser

It happens a lot, even here at OC airport. If they want your gun and the case is locked, they'll take the entire case.

I am thinking once some one has the case in there hands most people could have cases open in about 0.5 seconds? Most of the ones I have seen would keep children out but that is about all.

[SierraNevadaCCW]

Get a decoy gun case to put in plain sight....use a rock as weight to put in there and attach a sticky note to it, addressed to the bad guy....with some personal insult or quote of the day....then....put your real gun & case in another suitcase pocket with a broken zipper that's hard to open....

[GunSlut]

Fly with Zero Haillirburtons.

Aluminum laptop case

[hygyliac]

Originally Posted by GunSlut

Fly with Zero Haillirburtons.

Aluminum laptop case

Mine is gun metal grey, but after I while I started to think that it would be stolen just because its such a nice looking lap top case. I do like the royal blue colored one though. The prices shown are not bad.

[NSP]

My friend was a TSA security guard that also would check luggage in the back. He told me that if you knew how they operate, as in working there for a while, you'd just know how to get around things. Yeah airport security is still full of holes.

[DParker]

I've never had a problem....but in addition to a sturdy lock on the gun case, I thread hardened cable through the handle of the gun case around one of the frames of my suitcase and lock with a good lock.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by hbliam

Then every case I checked had a Wilson in it.

And a Kimber Ultra CDP II.

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by The Gimper

And a Kimber Ultra CDP II.

I'd rather have them pay for a wilson. Then I could buy two or three kimbers.

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by SierraNevadaCCW

Get a decoy gun case to put in plain sight....use a rock as weight to put in there and attach a sticky note to it, addressed to the bad guy....with some personal insult or quote of the day....then....put your real gun & case in another suitcase pocket with a broken zipper that's hard to open....

A guy I work with had his gun inspected at two airports prior to being allowed to check it. They might notice that it's a rock. They will also haul you off to cuba if you put a gun in anything other then the locked case you hand them.

[CenterX]

Out of Sac to Denver, Sac to Ronald Regan via Chicago, Sac to Tulsa every so often. I have both the TSA and the airline carriers rules printed, in the case and pulled out to go over with both the airline agent and the TSA agent as needed. Never any issues. Sometimes it is very slow.
I use either a Pelican type hard case with a highly visible owners tag cable tied to it and NON- TSA locks, or a tough-side briefcase with built in combination locks, and to top it off, each firearm was inside another locked "LifeJacket". I ask to watch them clear or demonstrate empty if needed, and verify they are locked and get the keys back. Belt and suspenders - maybe, but it gives me options for locking up the sweethearts during the trip. I like the places where they xray only and never ask to open anything.
Each trip has a different twist at each airport. I like the varyation, makes a boring trip interesting. Missed a flight once cause of TSA but still got home on time. My partner worries about theft more than I do.